Human Resources committee  Those would be some of the factors. Obviously, were the airline to increase in size, that would have a proportionately larger--

Human Resources committee  With respect to Air Canada itself, that is probably true. However, there are many other airlines within Canada, coming and going. I think within Canada there are approximately 980 airlines of various sizes.

Human Resources committee  They would indeed be at the peak of their salary range. However, age is not a direct correlation to seniority. The seniority dictates which aircraft you fly, not the age. Many pilots are being hired these days in their forties--

Human Resources committee  For some.

Human Resources committee  Actually, no. The maximum pension level for Air Canada pilots is when they reach 35 years of service. If they were hired at 19 or 20 years of age, that would happen long before their mandatory retirement age. They would no longer be contributing to the plan and their pension paym

Human Resources committee  Obviously, some programs, yes—the health programs, insurance programs—but for pension programs, it would probably save it money. You'd be contributing to the pension plan rather than drawing from it, and, obviously, when you do finally retire, you're not going to be around as lon

Human Resources committee  Right. I would basically say that Professor Kesselman obviously has the information on this.

Human Resources committee  I don't believe it has an impact on it.

Human Resources committee  We're not looking at age here; we're looking at seniority. Some pilots are hired at 40; some pilots are hired at 20. Obviously, they're going to reach maximum pensionable ages long before their retirement age.

Human Resources committee  First, I'd like to say that Sault College has indeed an excellent program. My youngest daughter is planning on attending the pilot course next year. My oldest son is also a pilot. He's flying for Cathay Pacific in Hong Kong. There are tremendous opportunities throughout the world

Human Resources committee  I would say it's a combination of all. The pension is good, albeit a little shaky the last few years. The main aspect is not financial; it is that pilots just love to fly. They tend to be a somewhat alpha group of individuals who worked long and hard to get where they got. They e

Human Resources committee  The licensing body within Canada is Transport Canada. About 26 years ago, they did away with the blanket age restriction on licences. It was previously 60 years of age. The reason for this change was that they felt a personal evaluation made far more sense than a blanket age rest

Human Resources committee  Unfortunately, I'm not getting simultaneous translation. I'm getting French only, français seulement.

Human Resources committee  Pardon, madame.

Human Resources committee  Very quietly.