Government Operations committee  I think that of course, the CBC is doing a number of things every year to try to create good Canadian content. In the case of of your question, I think they would probably be better placed to judge, or the public in general would probably be better placed to judge, than I would b

Government Operations committee  That's correct. They have a cost recovery system that is coming into place on April 1, 2013. My colleague just gave me what the numbers were for the additional years, and that's pretty much the same number.

Government Operations committee  On the evolution of the staff at Canadian Heritage, from the time of the Olympics, let's say, which was probably the highest, at about 2,300 people in 2009-10, we're at a current staff of about 1,753 people, and we're moving lower than that. We've had both an operational and a st

Government Operations committee  —the reduction is actually much higher than that. We've had one of the most significant staff reductions in government.

Government Operations committee  You're correct. Indeed, $14.4 million of the adjustment up is for the Pan Am Games, and there was another $5 million for the Grey Cup celebrations.

Government Operations committee  As the chief financial officer explained, it is not that we did not know, but we were doing a contribution agreement. I'm going to take the Grey Cup as an example. We were doing a contribution agreement and it was not complete on how they were going to design the use of the $5 mi

Government Operations committee  No. That means that, sometimes, because of the way the appropriation cycle works, we have to risk-manage some of these things.

Government Operations committee  That means we have to bank on the fact that it's going to happen. If it were not to happen, then we would have to find the money in some of our other appropriations....

Government Operations committee  The $5 million is being spent by the organizing committee of the Grey Cup. We have a contribution agreement with them. We're coming to the appropriation now that explains, because we needed to negotiate the thing....but it has not necessarily been paid yet, right? It really depen

Government Operations committee  As much as possible, in the best of all worlds, we always try to avoid that. But because of the way the appropriation system works, it does happen that you have money at risk like this.

Government Operations committee  We found different ways to do things. It is not just about cutting staff. We found ways to do things differently, more cheaply, and without affecting our service to Canadians.

Government Operations committee  Are you talking about the reductions as announced in Budget 2012? Those staff reductions amounted to 38 person-years only. Or are you talking about the exercise that I mentioned earlier, the very major structural deficit? The minister said that he wanted our reductions to be mad

Government Operations committee  I'm going to let my chief financial officer answer that one because I asked him that question yesterday. It is purely an accounting adjustment.

Government Operations committee  So in simple language, it's a technical accounting adjustment.

Government Operations committee  I'll just state that it is a technical adjustment. When you look at it in terms of money that came in and money that came out, you have the same amount.