Human Resources committee  I would just add that, in a very short time—through MiHR, for instance, and their work in the exploration side on statistics—we have seen a nice increase actually in youth who are interested and engaged in the geosciences, quite a nice bump actually, and that's just recent data.

Human Resources committee  I'll let Ryan take it in a second, but I'd say that the ASEP program was a good example of that because it actually developed skills that were needed by the industry, specific skill sets. Those types of programs are what I'm speaking about, I suppose.

Human Resources committee  Sure. It was really developed and backed by industry to bring geosciences into the curriculum. That was the main target at the beginning, really. So we slipstream into the Ontario curriculum. I can't remember the exact age. We'll say grades 2 or 3, and then the mid-tier is around

Human Resources committee  Yes, there's that component as well, and we make it very low cost. I think it's something in the order of $60 to come into the session to learn how to teach it. We have toolkits that we give them, including the materials to demonstrate with.

Human Resources committee  I think there is obviously that fundamental drive by industry to improve their industry, so they're going to be at the table all along. I think it's the real, on-the-ground, in-the-field skills development that we're missing in this country. If we had schools that were more techn

Human Resources committee  I would just add that this is not unique to Canada. There's a very large global population of competition out there. Call it any number you want, it's a critical issue of 100,000-plus workers in 10 years. We're facing the competition of exporting our skills, and that's happening

Human Resources committee  I'll ask Glenn to say some words about that since he's involved with it.

Human Resources committee  Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and committee members. My name is Scott Jobin-Bevans. I am president of the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, or PDAC. I'm here with Glenn Nolan, the PDAC's first vice-president. We are both volunteers with the association and our careers