Government Operations committee  Perhaps I can clarify that a little. When he announced the project, Mr. Clement clearly indicated that he was projecting savings of $100 to $200 million per year, which he was going to put towards paying down the deficit. In order to do that, you have to modify and unify comple

Government Operations committee  Really, it was just consultation about solving the major staff-transfer problems, the internal stuff. There has still been no consultation about the key strategic issues, like the way to achieve the savings and how to get a 30% reduction in services that the private sector charge

Government Operations committee  In our opinion, yes.

Government Operations committee  You would have to repeat it.

Government Operations committee  The other side of the coin is to ask why we would get rid of qualified people if they are then going to get private sector jobs selling their services back to us. That's chasing our tail. There are no savings in that.

Government Operations committee  As an example, it has now been six months since Shared Services Canada was established and it is still in the very early stages. The infrastructure is not really in place. The transfers have been made, but the work is being done as it was done in the past. So it will take a very

Government Operations committee  If I may add, going back to your original comment, quite rightly the Auditor General in her spring 2010 report raised some serious concerns. To address those concerns, you need to invest. Currently there are no planned investments within Shared Services Canada. So it is difficult

Government Operations committee  If I may, one of the basic tenets that the Government of Ontario put forth when they planned this massive infrastructure change was that no job losses would incur, and I think that would be a good decision point and a good conversion point at this time. They achieved the savings