Foreign Affairs committee  Yes. The money goes into the Consolidated Revenue Fund. On the other hand, the department is appropriated for its services, including consular services. So yes, the main estimates and the department would be a much better place to have those questions answered.

Foreign Affairs committee  The Auditor General had made two recommendations in her 2005 report. One was to develop liable cost information tied to service standards, which is precisely what Michel was talking about in terms of activity-based management and activity-based costing. We know now what everythi

Foreign Affairs committee  We do plan to have a communications campaign. For those of you who are interested, we have videos on our YouTube channel; one of which explains how the agency is financed, and one explains the passports. We may look at doing a video explaining the new fee at the appropriate time.

Foreign Affairs committee  It is not in our current plans.

Foreign Affairs committee  The international norm for e-passports, which is set by the International Civil Aviation Organization is the face. The benefit is that all the passport agencies have a face, so it's a relatively simple thing to do. Those countries that are adding a second biometric to their pass

Foreign Affairs committee  In the case of a first application. They have a special security fee that they apply on the first application. So it's $113 for those.

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes.

Foreign Affairs committee  It's one of those problems that's very hard to put a figure on, because if you do your job properly, it's not going to happen. So it's kind of....

Foreign Affairs committee  No, I think we do a pretty good job. Increasingly, we have the tools that are allowing us to do it. We've not only instituted facial recognition, but we also have a case management system. We work—

Foreign Affairs committee  No. They're much more difficult to reproduce, and that's why you see the fraud moving from the booklet to the front end. What we know about the use of e-passports is that once you've locked the chip, it makes it much more difficult for somebody who is a look-alike, for example,

Foreign Affairs committee  Well, I won't do the math in my head because that's probably not a good idea, but I would say roughly $25 times 4.8 million passports.

Foreign Affairs committee  I'm sorry. Michel has just corrected me. We don't collect the consular fee on children's passports, so it wouldn't be exactly 4.8 million. We can get the number and send it to you.

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes.

Foreign Affairs committee  4.8 million.

Foreign Affairs committee  Yes, EP, the emergency passport.