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Citizenship and Immigration committee  What I said is that I have visited a number of countries, including Thailand, to work with the authorities in those countries and to work within their laws to try to assist them in dealing with what is a problem that confronts all of us—human smuggling—and has an impact when a ve

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chairman, at the end of the day, it's within Thai law what activities the Thai government and officials would undertake. From our point of view, we're simply working with them to assist them in ways to deal with the human smugglers who are attempting to depart to Canada. I'

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  The focus is more on mass arrivals than it is on planes. Having said that, the reality is that in many cases, people who arrive on a plane are not necessarily smuggled. They may have smuggled themselves, but they may not be part of a large smuggling ring. I'm not sure the same t

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I think, Mr. Chairman, that question would be better addressed to the departments responsible for the policy—CIC, CBSA, and others. From my point of view, I have worked with biometrics in the past, but as I said earlier, it's not a subject with which I have crossed paths in the

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  To be perfectly honest, Mr. Chairman, that again is going back into an area of policy responsibility that isn't directly mine. It would be better addressed to the other departments that are responsible for those policy issues. My guess is that it will be, but again, as I was say

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Well, we have had some successes in stopping the smuggling vessels. There was one that was seized by the Indonesians last year called the MV Alicia, and one more recently in Africa that was seized by the Ghanaian government.

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm not quite sure what the point of the question was towards. Obviously, in terms of the introduction of the bill, many lessons were learned. I think it was also learned that if we were going to be effective, we also had to add another string to the bow, which was prevention.

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chairman, it's actually relatively straightforward. It's simply a question of trying to coordinate the various activities of a number of Canadian intelligence and law enforcement agencies to work with our international partners, whether that be countries in various parts of t

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  You mean the particular aspect in terms of biometrics?

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I think, as was pointed out, biometrics is clearly part of the evolution of being able to identify people and be certain of your identification. Frankly, I haven't done any recent work on biometrics. I know that in some cases there are some concerns about how fast the work on bio

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  In theory it should help. However, most of my job is to try to prevent people from even getting here or prevent ventures from getting here. I'm working one level ahead of that. Hopefully they won't depart.

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I don't think it's an either-or, Mr. Chairman; I think you have to do some of both. Clearly you need the right policies and laws in place to manage your sovereignty and your borders, but you also need the capacity, and need to exercise the capacity, to reach out and prevent thing

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Chairman, I'm a lawyer, but I don't try to give legal opinions in areas in which I haven't done any work, especially in the constitutional area, not since, I think, I left law school. So you probably would be better to address that to somebody else.

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock

Citizenship and Immigration committee  It's to the national security adviser.

May 7th, 2012Committee meeting

Ward Elcock