Environment committee  Yes, exactly. Fragmentation is a critical issue in urban areas.

Environment committee  I think those are the right general ones. The real sense I got when I was in the Rouge last spring was that this is very much a work in process. In a sense, people within the community are learning as they go. I think that we need to ensure that we profit from that learning. Yo

Environment committee  Well, in 15 seconds I would say that the Canadian Boreal Forest Agreement is a very interesting pilot project in that context, and we need to take that concept to other industries. I'd love to see the mining industry step up the way the forest industry did.

Environment committee  I would make a couple of comments. One is that I think the idea of funding restoration projects as infrastructure is an intriguing one. I can't say that we have a public position on it, but I think it's a very interesting idea. Many restoration projects are quite labour-intensiv

Environment committee  We believe that the figures are much too modest. We must recognize that we have to aim much higher than that. In the long term, we should be thinking about conserving half of our public lands. In fact, that is what we find in Quebec's Plan Nord. but it affects Ontario as well.

Environment committee  That really is a dilemma. In Canada, we have parks, like Banff in the Rockies, that are under great pressure because of the numbers of people going there and the potential commercial development that, of course, interests business. So the environment is at risk in Banff. On the

Environment committee  Yes, we certainly could.

Environment committee  We'll do a better job that way than with me ad libbing it.

Environment committee  There clearly needs to be legislation on national urban parks. We would like that legislation to be general and not simply restricted to the Rouge park. As we all start to think harder about this, we will see other opportunities to apply this concept in other parts of the country

Environment committee  I agree that it should, yes.

Environment committee  Yes.

Environment committee  We have commented in the context of the existing park system in our report last July. What I would say is we need to raise the game in the context of urban conservation. It's a tougher, more complex problem, not a simpler one.

Environment committee  I would start by saying that we believe very strongly that the current legislation should be maintained, as I think others would in the environmental field. It really is a gold standard internationally for which Canada has been recognized.

Environment committee  For national parks it should be, yes, but I think we have to take a slightly different approach to national urban parks, just because of the realities of those kinds of ecosystems.

Environment committee  As to more traditional kinds of national parks, I don't see any reason to waver from that standard. We have been concerned about some instances in recent years. We felt that Parks Canada was slipping a little bit. We had a concern about the glacier discovery walk in Jasper Nati