Government Operations committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. It has been a pleasure.

Government Operations committee  Thank you very much.

Government Operations committee  Also, if you think about the purpose-based votes, if the purpose is not clear, then it really doesn't matter how much money you've attached to a purpose if it is not understandable, so this year we put a lot of effort behind the departmental results framework. Mr. McCauley aske

Government Operations committee  Thank you.

Public Accounts committee  On the collective agreements, we are responsible, as the employer, for the negotiation of the agreements. The reason this collective agreement is such a big load is that the previous agreements had expired. We were automatically working on retroactivity. We had no choice. You can

Public Accounts committee  One commitment is that it will be transparent. If the committee has specific categories it wants us to survey, we will do that. I just heard you list a number of them. What we will report on is, originally, how much money was allocated for Phoenix, not only consolidation but also

Public Accounts committee  Also, we will have a—

Public Accounts committee  You're absolutely correct. Do we have all of the tools? No. Are we in the process of getting the tools in place? Yes. I would be happy to brief you in more detail, because this is an absolutely critical issue.

Public Accounts committee  The first name is okay.

Public Accounts committee  On the Gartner report, the fact that we had contracted it out, we informed at that time.... Our assistant deputy minister informed PSPC, and in January.... I don't have the exact date.

Public Accounts committee  No. That we had contracted it out, and in January the report was sent to PSPC senior management.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  Clearly not, sir. At the time with the knowledge we had, we asked PSPC to check with every department. When the initial wave happened, there was no sense of the magnitude of the problems we were running into. The magnitude of the problems became way more apparent by about June. B

Public Accounts committee  Sir, what I said was that they, meaning PSPC, would move forward only if they were 99% sure. At the time, they were sure it was going to work.

Public Accounts committee  The 99% was used as an assurance that.... This is a system that manages the pay of public servants. It's a basic need for an employer to be able to pay their people. The risk with this one has to be very low, and that was understood. At the time, the managers of this program felt