Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Well, see, we've been trying to deal with a number of issues. There are technical issues, right? We've been talking to them about what the model of management of investigation is. We've adapted the major case management model of the RCMP, and we asked how a model like that, which

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  That is one of our critical core functions.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I would rather be further along by far than we are. Honduras, from my perspective, represents the kind of instability we saw, as I said, 10 years ago in Guatemala. They've made major progress in Guatemala. We are not where I would like us to be. I think we have made progress on c

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  We dealt both with the judiciary and the Ministerio Público around that. We were working with the previous attorney general, who was removed. Then we were involved at the time that they created their transition team, which they imposed, and then they created the new attorney gene

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I have some questions for you. I was sent a number of questions from the committee. I don't know whether you want me to start by talking about what I know about these various questions, or whether you want to present these questions to me.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I don't know. They came from the committee, but I'm not sure how they were formed. They were questions that dealt with trying to provide you with an update on what's going on around government responses to what's going on in Honduras. I'm quite comfortable to talk that way if y

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Okay, that's what I will do then. You must be interested primarily in what's going on with regard to responding to the problems in the country. Just as I reported last time, we have been involved in the country for a number of years. We've been involved primarily around trying

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I think the only way that can happen is with a two-pronged approach. You have to have, in the streets, the kind of work we're doing, and you have to have another level, which is the kind of level the commission is doing, where they're actually trying to hold the government accoun

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I would say that there are, I guess, different kinds of risks. There's certainly a risk of our wasting money. Certainly, for those of us who are doing this work, we don't want to waste our time and our money working in places where they're not delivering. We're very adamant about

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I have just one comment. For Canada this kind of work is fairly new work. Historically I don't think we did that in Latin America, and I do think the reputation of Canada in the region is quite solid. I think that's how it's viewed.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Obviously there was the period in Guatemala, which was the extreme period in 1981-82, when the massacres were happening, and that's a different thing. But during the conduct of the civil war in Guatemala, if you look at the number of people killed per year, the situation is....

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I think so.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  It's interesting because our interests are to try to help them get the functionality of their system. There are benefits for Canada that come out of this, because obviously if you don't have stable security, it's hard for businesses to operate. Many businesses are spending a lot

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  —then you need to have the technical capacity to start to take the cases, put them in one place, and start to link them. That doesn't exist in Honduras. It's only now that it's starting to exist in Guatemala. If you're going to take down the gangs—and we're talking maybe 10,000

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  They don't have the capacity.