Finance committee  The savings could be up to $4,000 per trademark over the application process.

Finance committee  Typically, it's to a legal intermediary.

Finance committee  I'll take your word for that, sir.

Finance committee  Do you mean that the actual legislation was provided to people in advance? Is that what you're suggesting?

Finance committee  On the drafting, we did not. But all the essential concepts were there and the actual treaties have been known publicly as countries have been acceding for many years.

Finance committee  There will be a regulatory process. Much of this needs to be implemented in regulation. CIPO will be taking steps to develop office policies on many of the practices, and we intend to fully engage with stakeholders on that process.

Finance committee  Canadian businesses benefit, absolutely, for certain.

Finance committee  I maintain that Canadian businesses will see benefits from this process.

Finance committee  Absolutely.

Finance committee  Let me give you two examples. Right now, to do a trademark application the cost is roughly about $4,000. After this, the only fee that will remain will be the actual application process with CIPO, which is $450. A firm can do that now without having to go to.... They can go to a

Finance committee  Again, I would point not to me. I got this question at the Senate committee as well. My suggestion there was to look at what has happened in the other jurisdictions that have joined these protocols.

Finance committee  In a number of these—

Finance committee  Well, if you go to a—

Finance committee  If you look on CIPO's website, the consultation documents are all there.

Finance committee  Sure, we'd be pleased to do that. Actually, we had the same question when we testified before the industry committee. We provided that list in writing to them last week.