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Justice committee  Provincial initiatives, that's right—

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  Not federal, no. There's just one thing I should add, which is the federal government has promised repeatedly to add 50 RCMP officers. I hope that happens very soon. That will be very much a good complement to Bill C-10, to add those additional 50 RCMP officers.

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  Going back to the 1994 Ontario Tobacco Control Act, tobacco use for ceremonial or spiritual purpose has always been exempted and is not targeted, or intended to be targeted, by any of these bills.

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  It isn't.

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  That is left aside. The first nations people make very clear distinctions between what they call commercial tobacco, which is what we're talking about, and raw leaf tobacco, which is used strictly in smudging and other ceremonial settings. It's a very, very small quantity, compar

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  In terms of the regulations, we're talking about tobacco that's grown under licence and as a result of having a contract with a tobacco company. It's under licence by a farmer, who can demonstrate that he or she has a contract with a properly licensed and registered tobacco compa

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  Yes, precisely, just as Bill C-10 is.

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  Exactly. As François Damphousse mentioned earlier, it's the local groupings of officers who work between municipal...and the Sûreté du Québec, together, that we don't have in Ontario. So apart from the larger population and all that, we don't have the same kinds of locally active

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  I think we'll have a better opportunity to do that when the raw leaf regulations are in place, because most, if not all, of the tobacco that's grown in Ontario goes south of the border to be processed and then comes back into Ontario or back elsewhere to be made into actual cigar

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  I don't know whether it's the one I just gave. If production by the manufacturers has been rising, does that mean people who smoke are smoking more? I don't think we have any evidence to indicate that pack-a-day smokers are suddenly becoming pack-and-a-half or two-pack-a-day smok

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  If I buy a pack of du Maurier from a convenience store, federal and provincial tobacco taxes and excise taxes have been paid or I am paying them on the spot. If I'm buying a bag of cigarettes from Smokin Joes on Tyendinaga, no taxes have been paid—no taxes will be paid either by

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  I was talking strictly about the on-reserve manufactured product. If I'm buying Rothmans, I have to be a first nations, carded individual to buy that tax free.

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  Yes, it is, according to an allocation system.

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  Following the changeover from a quota system to a licensed system a few years ago, when the federal government spent about $300 million buying out the quota, and then farmers were able to pick up licences, provided they had contracts with companies, the crop size has more than do

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley

Justice committee  I think it is extremely important that we have a clear message about contraband, and by clear message I don't simply mean a message about the new deterrent penalties and so on, but a message about what contraband actually is. While I'm sure most people know something is wrong or

December 10th, 2013Committee meeting

Michael Perley