Transport committee  What I just said was that we can have across Canada a good experience and that the train company respects the law, but we do have concerns about some of the—

Transport committee  Employers often fail to observe safety rules. Employers often make changes to safety systems and various ways of working and do not obey the rules. We have to put up with it. We are simply asked to sign at the bottom of a form and get back to work. Someone has to take some leade

Transport committee  Training is specifically provided on the— SMS, the safety management system. We also provide training on— GOI, general operating instructions. Currently, we provide training on the handbrake policy. We also provide it on the legislation and regulations that apply to railways.

Transport committee  Actually, let me add one thing about the specific case of Lac-Mégantic. A little earlier, I went over the history of the way in which the new rules governing parking trains on the main line came about. We agree that it is unacceptable. In terms of training, we want people to kno

Transport committee  That is true.

Transport committee  As I was saying earlier, the first responders are not always members of our union. We have to be careful. People working on the tracks or in trains carrying hazardous materials also have to be aware of what the train is carrying. That seems necessary to me. In any situation, an e

Transport committee  We have no objection with that as a security measure. Our union's only fear is that those video cameras will be used for other things. They must not be used to penalize our members by seeing if they are doing their jobs, or to examine workers like you examine a microbe under a mi

Transport committee  Exactly.

Transport committee  I'll go even further, if I may. Decisions are made by the Transportation Safety Board of Canada. It seems that there is a wall between the recommendations of the Transportation Safety Board of Canada and Transport Canada. The left hand doesn't seem to know what the right hand is

Transport committee  Actually, the steps are not very complicated. Our people have been given training for years on various aspects of regulations, both provincial and federal. Our union has people who are experts on those matters. In addition, Local 1976 specializes in transportation and handles m

Transport committee  With all due respect, sir, I don't know everything. I can't say how many people know what's in the SMS or how many don't. I can't answer that question.

Transport committee  I would like to add something, if I may. We are talking about the SMS and the applicable legislation, but I've realized that the safety rules are different in some cases. They are done on a piecemeal basis from company to company. I'll give you the example of MMA. The one-man cr

Transport committee  It has no price. A nightmare like Lac Mégantic must not happen again. In my opinion, Transport Canada must take reasonable action. If that means taking away the licence of a company that doesn't respect the rules, then so be it. Imposing fines is good, but we need to go further,

Transport committee  I think teams should be trained. We are talking about the transport of dangerous goods. I think that in these kinds of situation there should be teams of first responders who can step in when there is an incident or accident, in order to avoid catastrophes.

Transport committee  The position of the steelworkers union is clear. We want the information made public. I understand that in some situations—