Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, I haven't. I read about it in the news yesterday and today. I can tell you what I thought about the news, but I don't think that entitles me to a view here.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think Mr. Quail is the one who referenced that procedure so I think it would be best if he answered that question.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In the absence of evidence, why would you change policy to protect against something that appears to be imaginary?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm saying that the system, as it exists, hasn't thrown up evidence of significant fraud, and the absence of evidence—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I would say, if there were evidence of the kind of fraud you report in some news story in North Carolina.... So the answer of how you discover fraud is presumably however they discovered it in North Carolina, so that's the answer to your question. I don't know what happened in No

Procedure and House Affairs committee  —that the irregularities.... There's been extensive investigation into types of irregularities, and the irregularities in the Canadian electoral system are mainly of the record-keeping variety. That's what's been discovered already. There may be, in the future, evidence of fraud

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Basically, I'm going to say that I don't have the expertise to answer your question, but I agree with the thrust of the question, which is to say that certainly there's been evidence of wrongdoing, which amounts to fraud, in other aspects of the electoral system. But that is, unf

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I agree.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Sure. I think that's a better solution than what is offered. Fundamentally the problem with having invited me is that I don't see any problem with the present system, except that it's not permissive enough. I would encourage more permissiveness, but that's not the political mood

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I said there was no evidence of it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Well, I certainly didn't say that.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes, I agree with that. Mr. Quail said that most Canadians have driver's licences. In fact, I think the last number I saw was that 85% of voting-age Canadians have a driver's licence. There is actually quite a large proportion of Canadians who need to find some alternative way

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm sorry, I can't answer that. I don't have the expertise to answer that question.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I definitely think that we should be starting all over again. I think it's really disingenuous of the government to say that the reason for these changes is that we're trying to increase public confidence in an electoral system that people have a lot of confidence in, and that th

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. That's the blunt answer. Do you want me to say more? Yes, it's a problem.