Public Accounts committee  In the vast majority of situations, it's the provinces that deliver the funding. They tend to rely on their AgriInsurance, their production insurance staff, to make those payments.

Public Accounts committee  We have no data. We have no indication that any such situation exists.

Public Accounts committee  That's correct.

Public Accounts committee  That's Tina and I. As the OAG indicated, there's not a formal reporting system and we have now fixed that with that recommendation number 3, I believe it was. We had taken those steps to do so. On the earlier point, when we do those assessments, the individuals involved in thos

Public Accounts committee  The 45 days was set very early on when we were looking at the framework with the provinces. It was naive. The first error we made was exactly the point that was made earlier: the request doesn't come in when we know the situation, which is basically what we were assuming when we

Public Accounts committee  There's no formal criteria when a request for an assessment comes in. It's generally as you say: you end up with a negative situation someplace out there; there's some sense that it's worthy of an assessment; the request comes in; and we then launch into a formal assessment of th

Public Accounts committee  That was a production problem. We have production insurance called AgriInsurance.

Public Accounts committee  We generally look to the province to make the call.

Public Accounts committee  No, I do not know. I would suggest it was very few.

Public Accounts committee  Concerning the apple trees, you recognize that we did not do an agri-recovery initiative.

Public Accounts committee  We're constantly in contact with our—

Public Accounts committee  That's our formal performance measurement framework. Obviously we have many interactions with producer organizations, particularly when we went into consultations for Growing Forward 2. When we were doing that process, we heard a lot of support for AgriRecovery and for the fact t

Public Accounts committee  Yes. I'll go with that analogy.

Public Accounts committee  There are a couple of points. First off, I think we need to understand that the nine months isn't when the first payment goes out. That's when 75% of the payments were made. The other point I should make is that AgriRecovery is not our first line of defence; in fact, it's our la

Public Accounts committee  No, it's the provinces that generally it. We have a framework whereby either jurisdiction can trigger the framework; however, in most cases it's the provinces that do so. They tend to be closer, on the ground with the producers, so it tends to be the provinces that come forth wit