Public Safety committee  Typically the cost per individual in a program will range somewhere between $5,000 and $10,000. Most of our programs are probably more towards the $5,000 range. A $10,000 program would be dealing with much more complex situations and issues, but typically it would be about $5,000

Public Safety committee  The one thing that is a bit unique about this program is that it truly is experimental. That is the way we reconstructed it in 2008. It is why we end the funding in five years. It is not designed to give sustainable funding. So we very much monitor these programs, and indeed we d

Public Safety committee  We have a limited number of experiences using these because they are relatively new to the way we work, but I'll give you a hard example. Last year, the department entered into an agreement with Habitat for Humanity, where we are trying to use Habitat, whether it's on their job s

Public Safety committee  We certainly have a list. Basically our programs are categorized three ways. We have proven, promising, and new. Proven programs are programs that are considered to be best practices, promising are those that we think will become best practices, and new, we just don't know. They

Public Safety committee  Yes, I have many thoughts about that. I've been working on—

Public Safety committee  I've been working in this area for the last eight years. Indeed I think social impact bonds are kind of the far end of the spectrum in terms of the kinds of tools that are available when one talks about social financing. It's a little bit the holy grail. The concept essentially

Public Safety committee  It may not be complete.

Public Safety committee  I would say that there are data sets that are incomplete but I would say that, based on the size of our population, the statistical correctness of our approach, and the methodological correctness of our approach, we're fairly confident in understanding the results that we see for

Public Safety committee  We don't have longitudinal data, nor are we doing anything that could be construed as a longitudinal study. We deal with the child for two years in a program, last year and this year. We say we have success because they stayed in the program and that should reduce crime. We don

Public Safety committee  Right now we're exploring the viability of these kinds of approaches to funding our work. We are looking—as the first member who asked us questions—at how we can shift the way we currently do funding in NCPC toward using these kinds of mechanisms. Relevant to your first comment,

Public Safety committee  Pay for performance would be the one across government. We're doing more on that because it's an easy way to adjust our grants and contributions programs. We've investigated the others and we're considering whether we can deploy them.

Public Safety committee  In all cases in our programming, it's voluntary. Our focus is on youth so primarily we'll work with either schools, school counsellors, social service agencies or parents. What will happen is that they will identify individuals that they want to bring forward and have them partic

Public Safety committee  That would be done again in working with our partners. Sometimes it's with policing agencies. One of the examples that Kathy noted is that we do fund policing agencies to run some of our projects. That would be exactly the way we do it. It is with local police or with schools tha

Public Safety committee  I think the targets would vary by the kind of program, and indeed they vary a little bit by community. We try to design these things to take advantage of the local community assets. We definitely do look at contacts with the law and either the avoidance of, or the reduction of, c

Public Safety committee  I think what we did in 2008 was recognize that there was a lack of Canadian data. I think up until that point we had been largely relying on data and extrapolating from data that were from American and British sources, primarily. So, I think the reconstruction of the program in 2