Human Resources committee  That is a good question. We currently do not have a program with a social finance component. There aren't any at my department, but there are some examples at the Public Health Agency of Canada. The Agency has worked on projects with organizations that had social finance dimens

Human Resources committee  Not per se.... Charities exist in civil society to serve the purposes that Cathy mentioned. I would say that social finance is just an instrument, just as charitable donations are in order to be able to help them advance some of their objectives. They are different types of fund

Human Resources committee  In terms of an active consultation process, no. There's no advisory board of charitable organizations that meets with us on a regular basis, but as with many other government departments, we regularly meet with stakeholders. I would say that over the years we meet with stakehold

Human Resources committee  No, that didn't happen to me. Blair and I were here at the beginning, but you didn't abandon us.

Human Resources committee  Sorry.

Human Resources committee  We might be able to work with our colleagues at Industry Canada in order to provide that information to the committee.

Human Resources committee  They might not know that they can access those programs.

Human Resources committee  Personally, I don't know. I think this has more to do with the mandate of our colleagues at Industry Canada. Industry Canada has programs that may be accessible to non-profit organizations, especially social enterprises. I think it is up to Industry Canada to answer that questio

Human Resources committee  I can't comment for the Canadian context because we obviously haven't done any in the federal government. We've just launched one, a kind of hybrid between pay-for-performance and social impact bonds, but it's in its early stages.

Human Resources committee  Minister Kenney had announced something in October 2013, and this is in the area of literacy and essential skills. It is a short-term project. It will run for 18 months, approximately. It has two populations: one of employed Canadians and one of non-employed Canadians. In both ca

Human Resources committee  Yes, or 100%, and they'll define that—people who have multiple barriers, for instance. As I said, there are different techniques, and that's common in applied social sciences, but there are also many remedies from a research design perspective to address that.

Human Resources committee  Right now we don't do any of it. We don't typically measure outcomes. We tend to measure outputs in the context of our grants and contributions programs. I'll give you an example within my ministry of where we are, I think, quite adept at being able to measure things because we d

Human Resources committee  We have the skill set.

Human Resources committee  Yes, because we are very—

Human Resources committee  We have a very strong research function within our department already. We have a very strong evaluation function within our department. Both of those are applied social sciences. We already measure things in the context of our program evaluations and in the context of our researc