Environment committee  Let me go back to Barcelona and some of the other Spanish examples where they have actually outlawed landfills and have actually said you must recycle all of your old landfills. The problem is that when they take the cap off, now they have a chemical cocktail and they have no id

Environment committee  Yes.

Environment committee  To answer that, again I'm most familiar with my own community, but if I look at a newspaper article here from November 20, it's about the landfill in Red Deer. Part of their business plan is to be very green, but they're bragging about their garbage facility. It's not modern. It'

Environment committee  Yes. I have 28 solar panels and 60 solar tubes and I'm planning to put up another bank of 100 solar panels, but the government might not let me sell that much green energy into the grid, so I'll have to fight that too.

Environment committee  I guess Edmonton would like to think that they are at the front end of this, because they have taken some action and not just talked about it. They haven't quite gone far enough to get rid of all of that material and they still have part of a landfill. I was interested in the ge

Environment committee  I tried this little experiment in the Netherlands, because they were looking for new technology. They can't landfill efficiently anymore, because they're short of land and they have a high water table, etc. They had a 50-year contract for an incinerator and they weren't sure how

Environment committee  That's where the sales come in. That's where we take examples. We take early adapters of other forms of handling garbage. We have an early adapter there, and there will be only a handful of municipalities in that category. Most of them are waiting to see what happens. They're not

Environment committee  Remember my letters back from the provinces and the municipalities? I got a lot of letters.

Environment committee  Yes, but we recycled all the paper.

Environment committee  Again, I was so pleased to be asked to come before the committee on this subject, particularly because I've tried to get it raised so many times. I think it's really important. I think it's something that every province and every municipality in every province has a problem with.

Environment committee  I think if everybody sorted at the curb, that would be wonderful. The problem is that a lot of people don't, and I challenge you again to go and open 25 garbage bags. Obviously, it has to be at where the collection point is. In other words, I think the plant that it's taken to is

Environment committee  Right. We didn't used to have that.

Environment committee  New technologies reduce the GHGs into the.... Because a landfill is releasing all kinds—

Environment committee  —of greenhouse gases. That's where it is justified. Yes, there are a number of projects, from composting of manure to things like Plasco, where money has been offered through that carbon fund.

Environment committee  Hey, I don't want to get into that; I don't need a lawsuit. That's a medical issue and we'd need to ask a doctor.