Environment committee  It's the appropriations process. When I talk about the overall budget, $91 million, that's the authority we have to cost-recover.

Environment committee  Correct.

Environment committee  Madam Chair, I'm not clear on what the question is.

Environment committee  May I undertake to provide a written answer? There are nuances here. Is that agreeable?

Environment committee  We would welcome that opportunity.

Environment committee  It is.

Environment committee  I'm going to turn this to our chief environment officer, Dr. Steedman.

Environment committee  I can't speak to management decisions that were or were not made prior to when I arrived a year ago. What I can tell you is that we have undertaken to modernize our systems and we are dedicating resources to that. It's happening.

Environment committee  Absolutely, so—

Environment committee  The chair came in about 18 months ago—I joined six months later—and the auditors began their work, I believe in February. I arrived in January. In a way, it was good fortune, because—

Environment committee  —you had somebody saying here are the problems and you can focus your resources on those issues.

Environment committee  That's right.

Environment committee  Actually this is very interesting, because I don't think it's quite as severe as it may have come across. It is true that in 2008 we had issues in the order of a 29% rate of attrition for our engineers. However, the private sector found the same thing. We have taken some very sp

Environment committee  That was in 2008, which was a peak year in the industry, so we weren't the only ones facing that. I think we have to be careful when we look at those numbers, because our attrition rates are at par with the rest of the public service.

Environment committee  My assessment, when I came in, was that the IM/IT infrastructure was completely lacking. You had systems that didn't talk to each other. You had very handraulic processes—