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Status of Women committee  I can't answer that. Two years after my report came out, I criticized the Canadian Armed Forces for the same thing. Initially, I was told that all the recommendations had been implemented. After looking at the little table the Canadian Armed Forces had put together, I explained that the recommendations had not all been implemented.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  As I indicated, someone else could be asked to take a fresh look at the problem or new blood could be brought in to examine the current situation. Having been outside the system for six years, I can't recommend anything concrete other than—

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  As I mentioned, I don't have any further recommendations, because I don't know what's going on right now. It's been six years now. I know, for example, that the advocate I just mentioned exists, but this function doesn't hold.... It's only a tiny portion of what I designed. If they can start with putting in place my recommendations, that would be a start.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  The Canadian Armed Forces has been very good at tackling other issues. For example, they tackled...not completely, but they did a lot of work with alcohol consumption. It took a lot of effort. If they can just gather their efforts to do the same kind of control that they are doing on alcohol consumption....

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  This is the answer that the global strategy was supposed to provide. When I drafted my report, I said that the Canadian Forces needed to come up with a global strategy. I was not in a position to draft such a strategy. I thought they would come up with it and come up with it early.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  The following is one of the ideas I came up with. It was not something that I just took out of my head. I had an example from one of the contributors who acted as an advocate. One very concrete means I had to comfort the victim was that the centre—the independent centre that was supposed to be created—would have on its staff an advocate who could welcome, take care of and stay with survivors from the minute they put their foot in the centre until the very end.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  Very concretely, we need to have better training, and we need to have men understand that they need to include the women.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  I didn't hear what Mr. Walbourne said, but the organization has to be independent, in my view. At this stage, I don't think a hybrid body would give people much confidence. Conversely, establishing an independent body comes with all sorts of challenges, since members of the military serve on bases and move from place to place.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  I'm not sure what kind of process you're referring to. I can give you a very technical response, which is that, yes, there is an administrative process that goes up to the chief of the defence staff, if you go all the way to the top. There is also an arbitration mechanism, and I'm not sure I'm in the best position to describe what is currently the process and whether you're talking about sexual harassment or sexual assault.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  For assault, it's the military justice system. For harassment, I've seen various approaches. I've seen in some environments.... I have an example in mind from the navy in which the very high-ranked officer was taking it very seriously, was receiving every day every report and wanted to make sure that the victims were looked after and that the perpetrators were not left alone.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  I'm not sure that the minister is part of the administrative process. I think it stops at the CDS.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  I'm not sure whether you're asking me to give my opinion on the way the minister is currently acting, which I don't want to comment on. Certainly, however—

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps

Status of Women committee  I am not commenting on who the ombudsman should report to, but certainly the way this function is structured is not very helpful.

March 25th, 2021Committee meeting

Marie Deschamps