Justice committee  Oral fluid is the test that shows that. Urinalysis doesn't and some other tests don't. But oral fluid shows a very high likelihood with marijuana, for example. The cut-off shows that you've smoked within four hours and there's a high concentration. So, we're looking for a set of regulations and legislation at the federal government level for the federal sector employees in safety sensitive positions that will establish those kinds of things as opposed to different industries trying to set their own standards and fight before different arbitrators and different judges—

Justice committee  Essentially what TTC is requesting is that the federal government review the whole notion of creating standards particularly for the transportation industry, similar to what they have in the United Kingdom and the United States, so there is a consistent set of per se limits, cut-off levels.

Justice committee  The difference between a roadside test—and the government may have a certain functional approach to that—and the workplace is that it's well established that you need to deal with impairment in the workplace. That's the issue. If you start getting into your analysis and into too low a cut-off, then you're dealing with someone's personal recreational habits, whatever those might be, whether you agree with them or not.

Justice committee  Good evening, Mr. Chair and honourable members. On May 8 of this year, the TTC took the bold step of initiating random alcohol and drug tests for all safety sensitive positions, designated management positions, and executive positions. As a result, as Megan has alluded to, some 21 union members were found to have positive test results or refusals, people who would otherwise be out driving buses, subways, streetcars, in the busy streets of Toronto.