Industry committee  In total with this investment we will have reached a million students and 61,000 teachers, so it's huge. I can share one very small personal anecdote, which is that my daughter participated in this kind of event with a number of others with her—it was a girls' day. The large majority of them reported that they didn't know that this was what coding was.

Industry committee  We know. I just don't know at this moment. I could get back to you today on what the timelines are for the tier 5 process.

Industry committee  Yes, absolutely.

Industry committee  I would say a couple things on that. One is that we have a CTI top-up where we're hoping to be able to use some of those applications. As for the negotiation process with the ones that are live, there's quite a bit of readjustment of an application, so if they come in with an application and there are competing applications, then we have to negotiate what's in and what's out.

Industry committee  Narrow geographic area.

Industry committee  I can add one thing to that. What we do hear from smaller companies when we are selling off spectrum is that we sell it in blocks that sometimes are not affordable for them. We are actually in the process of consulting on a smaller block size, so that these kinds of service providers can participate in spectrum acquisition.

Industry committee  Specifically on the policy direction, as you know, the minister is looking to issue a direction to the CRTC. It is in large part in response to what you've just talked about, which is affordability and competition. What we're asking them to do, as they are going to be making decisions on a variety of policy areas, is that they consider it through a consumer lens first.

Industry committee  Setlakwe.

Public Accounts committee  What I would say, just on the spectrum auctions, is that the 600 megahertz spectrum auction has deployment conditions. We consult on all of these before we go out. Basically, we understand the issue of the spectrum being acquired and not being implemented or used, so we are requiring deployment conditions.

Public Accounts committee  If I could just add, I think that what the Auditor General said in particular was that we didn't specifically ask companies or applicants why public funding was required. In our estimation, we assessed that. We didn't specifically ask them to pronounce on that, but we assessed those things when we were looking at the applications.

Public Accounts committee  Yes, 190 communities; and a third of the funding is directed to indigenous communities.

Public Accounts committee  Right now. Mr. John Knubley —right now, so I think we will be reporting on the consultations.... Lisa?

Public Accounts committee  Later this year or early next year.

Public Accounts committee  To go back to your first question, one of the things that is assessed under the connect to innovate program, for example, is the technology that's being used and the potential for scalability in the future. Those are things that are definitely considered. In addition, when we are providing federal funding, there is a requirement for those receiving that federal funding to share their infrastructure under certain terms and conditions.

Public Accounts committee  We are in the process of determining the gaps, province by province and territory by territory, and how much it will cost to connect those places. The areas that are easy to reach have been connected. In rural and more remote areas, the technology to get there is complicated and expensive.