Public Accounts committee  Just hold it for a minute, if you'll let me. We have a number of other people who break their contract authorities.

Public Accounts committee  Just hold it for a minute. We have 26,000—

Public Accounts committee  Hold it. We have 26,000 people in this organization. On any one day—

Public Accounts committee  And if you will permit me, I will continue.

Public Accounts committee  First of all, we do a report for the executive committee every month, and what we do is this. The first time we tell them that if they do this again, they're going to have the authority taken away. If they do it a second time, they're given training.

Public Accounts committee  No, we didn't know he was continuing on.

Public Accounts committee  No, the supervisor didn't give me the report. I said that. I explained that.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.

Public Accounts committee  We would see him at the pension advisory committee, but I didn't deal with him directly, no.

Public Accounts committee  No, he didn't report to our committee. He reported through HR.

Public Accounts committee  He didn't report to the committee, no. He reported through the organization, which is HR.

Public Accounts committee  No, that's false. I never did golf with Mr. Crupi. That's Mr. Wrzesnewskyj's allegation.

Public Accounts committee  It was RCMP money that they had raised through a charity tournament. They asked me to go out and present the cheque and do a speech for the Cancer Society at the same time.

Public Accounts committee  No, it was not.