Status of Women committee  I hope she has some economic data to share. I'm not an economist, so I don't have that. I think we have such an opportunity with what's happening right now with the pandemic to look at what we value in society, to look at the impact of not valuing certain things and to look at how we have prioritized growth over everything else, instead of taking care of one another.

Status of Women committee  Thank you for the question. We have a very interesting mix of young mothers and others on our team. In all of our ventures, we ask these questions all the time. There is no one answer for women. We are so diverse and different in our experiences and what we need. Again, I think that finding ways....

Status of Women committee  If you mean climbing the ranks within corporate structures, that's not an area I focus on. We're interested in funding women innovators and women entrepreneurs and helping them thrive. The way we do that with SheEO is that we fund them and support them on their own terms instead of trying to “fix” them to fit into the existing systems we have.

Status of Women committee  Yes. The thing that is unique about the approach we're taking is that it's all relationship based. This is part of it. We are living in a world that is so transactional. It's like, “Here's my money, so give me a return for my money”. It's all about accumulating that wealth and holding on to it as if there's not enough for everyone, which we know is crazy, because we're putting $10 million to $30 million into assault centres and we were just about to give $912 million to youth to volunteer.

Status of Women committee  There will be no recovery unless we figure out child care. We're not going to have an economic recovery. Women will not be able to get back to work. We're going to see a disproportionate impact on women if we don't figure out how to pay for this or solve it. We've seen women being told to keep their kids quiet when they're on a call at home.

Status of Women committee  Thank you very much. I'm Vicki Saunders, founder of SheEO. Good afternoon. Bonjour. I started SheEO. I'm just going to give a quick overview of SheEO, how we're dealing with what's happening with COVID and the opportunity going forward afterward. For those of you who may not be familiar with our organization, we started in Canada five years ago, and we are a complete redo of venture capital.

Finance committee  Absolutely. I think part of it is access to markets and relationships with customers. We've been working very closely with the Indigenous LIFT Collective and Teara Fraser. She's one of the activators in our network. We started doing calls a couple of months before the pandemic: How do we create the conditions for indigenous women in business to thrive?

Finance committee  I think there is a mix. Again, as with everything else, there isn't just one thing that's happening, such as all landlords doing x or all landlords doing y. I think, for various different reasons, in general a lot of landlords are just not applying for it or using it. They already are getting a benefit.

Finance committee  Again, if this could have gone directly to individuals, I think it would have been easier, instead of having to go through the landlord piece.

Finance committee  I think the big challenge with this is that we have a very narrow definition of what innovation is. It focuses very much on tech and on “go big”. There are tons of other kinds of innovation out there. There are all kinds of social innovations that aren't captured within this element.

Finance committee  Yes, and it's SheEO.

Finance committee  That's fine: CEO, SheEO. Yes, this has been a real challenge. I understand that it's really hard to be sitting there and go, “Okay, what should the rules be?”, and try to make this up to work for everybody. I appreciate the challenge around this, but a lot of our ventures were not eligible.

Finance committee  Thank you very much for the invitation to be here. Wow, that was very powerful. Thank you very much, Ms. Walker. I'm a serial entrepreneur. I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. I'm absolutely unemployable by anyone. It's a wonder that I'm actually on a call with government at the moment, but here I am.