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Public Accounts committee  I have to tell you that I think it depends. The right answer is, really, that it depends. We highlighted this as something that needs to be looked at because when we audited this program the first time in 2014, that was one of the concerns raised then: that there were constraints

April 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Public Accounts committee  I am concerned about this, because additional funds were allocated for whatever reason, and the department isn't able to demonstrate to us that they were used for the intended purpose. The focus was on improving existing services rather than expanding the program. In addition, t

April 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Public Accounts committee  I'll take a first crack at it, and see if Jo Ann or Mélanie might want to add something. What we were looking for was whether they knew they were, first, meeting the requirements of the agreements. What we found was that, in most cases, the RCMP was unable to tell us whether a p

April 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Public Accounts committee  I'm sorry. I'm not going to comment on the speed at which bills or legislation moves through Parliament. I'll leave that to all parliamentarians to adjust as they see fit. However, when it comes to deciding that services should be essential, it comes with recognizing that you ne

April 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Public Accounts committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to thank the committee for this opportunity to discuss our report on the first nations and Inuit policing program, which was tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2024. I would like to acknowledge that this hearing is taking place on the traditional u

April 30th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Thank you for providing the clarification. The question did not translate that way at all. I can answer it rather quickly and say that we didn't look at the Charter of Rights and the impact linked within Nunavut communities, so I wouldn't have anything further to offer.

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  As we previously answered, there are no community tripartite agreements in Nunavut, but the way I would approach this is linked to a finding that we saw around the services provided by the RCMP. I think it starts with being in the community and understanding the community. Also,

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  To speak to my comments earlier about having a fundamentally different approach when it comes to indigenous peoples and how services are provided to them, this could be included in that. Is it the right mechanism to have them apply to be part of a tripartite agreement to get acce

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I believe that's the current discussion and debate happening around whether or not policing services are an essential service and how that impacts this program. I can again speak to the siloed approach. How this is put forward is not working for indigenous people.

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  This is where policy-makers, like yourselves, can influence the outcome of the debate on this topic.

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We definitely know the ones we've looked at, so we can for sure go back into our files and see what we can provide to you. However, I believe that to have a more comprehensive answer, you should absolutely speak with Public Safety Canada. They would be able to give you that answe

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I can provide you the support that I—

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I can absolutely provide you the evidence I have that supports the statements we've made, but I also believe it's a great question for Public Safety Canada.

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  If you give us two seconds, I think Jo Ann would like to add to that.

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to answer that question. I would have to direct you to perhaps Statistics Canada. They might be able to give you some information on demographic movements. I don't have that.

April 29th, 2024Committee meeting

Karen Hogan