Status of Women committee  Thanks. I've really found this whole conversation interesting, because there's a hole in the middle of it, which is those who are causing harm and how we take that piece on. I agree that there are funding barriers that need to be looked at. It could be looking at alternative ways of addressing men's violence, when you're working with traditional practices within indigenous communities.

Status of Women committee  Absolutely. It's certainly one of the things that we as an organization.... I know that many of the men's programs across Ontario, which are the ones I know the best, have relationships with local police departments or provincial police departments and other services that are there in our communities.

Status of Women committee  Thanks. It is really an honour to be here speaking to this committee. I'm coming to you from St. Thomas, Ontario, and I'm here to represent my agency, which is Changing Ways, and the work that we do in Ontario, both locally and provincially. Changing Ways is a social service agency that specifically focuses on people who cause harm in their intimate relationships.