Fisheries committee  I think that's a very important question. Something that I feel very strongly about is the concept of a just transition and ensuring that workers in sectors such as this are not the ones bearing the brunt of the cost of these sorts of decisions, and certainly the numerous decisions that have led to this point.

Fisheries committee  I think it's hard to answer because it depends on what's being considered. As I acknowledged in my testimony, there are certain requirements around meeting conservation objectives that may always trump certain other societal benefits or considerations when considering future impacts and generations.

Fisheries committee  Thank you. I would say, all of the above. It's quite a systemic issue, and the issues arise not the least from a lack of capacity and resources in the department. Even from the natural sciences side, certainly there are a lot of critiques on there needing to be more investment in stock assessment, for example.

Fisheries committee  I'm sorry. Do you mean how an outcome could have been different in an existing example, or an example of contributions to social science in terms of categories of indicators that could be employed?

Fisheries committee  It's the latter. Okay. Some examples of the socio-economic data that I feel are really important to inform decision-making could be categorized in different ways. One example when looking at economics, which is brought up regularly, would be the equitable distribution of benefit.

Fisheries committee  Thank you very much for having me here today. For those who don't know me, I am currently an independent contractor, and I am here in one of my roles as a senior policy adviser for fisheries with Ecotrust Canada. I have spent 25 years looking at ways to realize fair, sustainable and prosperous fisheries, and I believe that fisheries, as a renewable resource, can be well managed for environmental, economic, cultural and social objectives.