Status of Women committee  My recommendation would be to require the provincial and territorial organizations to implement all the policies and procedures in the universal code that the national federation has, and that the provincial and territorial organizations require those at the grassroots to have the same rules and regulations, so there is a harmonious system throughout.

Status of Women committee  Moves need to be made by the national federations to be co-operative, and provincial and territorial organizations need to be more accepting of the role of the national federations. How can the federal government do that? I think it's only by encouraging greater co-operation and discussion, since it really doesn't have the legislative authority to push it down to the provinces and further down to the grassroots.

Status of Women committee  Which reports are you speaking about? If it's Gymnastics Canada, then yes, I can. What other ones are you thinking of? I've done a great number.

Status of Women committee  Okay. I'd have to check the Canada Soccer one. Canada Soccer was a different type of review from the Gymnastics Canada one. I can tell you what the Gymnastics Canada fees were right off the top of my head. It was $200,000.

Status of Women committee  Yes.

Status of Women committee  I think to protect them immediately is very difficult because you have to change roles and behaviours, and that requires clear rules, as Sophie was speaking about. It requires education of the people involved, and then aggressive, appropriate administrative action on the part of the sport.

Status of Women committee  It's a very quick overview, and it's a very detailed issue. As Mr. Moss was referring to, there's a code of conduct, and then there are safe sport practices. I think, from listening to him, there's no necessary interconnection of those—while I think there should be. The safe sport policies that we reviewed....

Status of Women committee  I don't think there's a conflict of interest. The problem is accountability. Monies are provided. Then, how are they used? Are they used effectively, and who is examining the use of the funds? That's the accountability. If they're directed at protecting young athletes, how is that done?

Status of Women committee  The idea I was trying to get at is that it's established in the universal code of conduct as very important as a first step. Then, the sport at all levels—right down to the grassroots level if it's going to be effective as a national, harmonized system—needs to be involved in it.

Status of Women committee  Well, we did not conduct an investigation. What we were trying to do is understand what the community felt was needed. Was a cultural review required? If it was, how should it be done and what should be a part of it? We were trying to build the foundation for a review that would be conducted by an independent group of people subsequent to the release of our work.

Status of Women committee  I will try to be brief. As to the monitoring, accountability is a problem in any sport. Gymnastics has a problem that many other sports have. There needs to be some oversight. Most sports are trying to tackle that problem by establishing some form of an integrity unit that has an ability to be independent, and check that the sport is doing everything it's supposed to be doing according to its constitution.

Status of Women committee  You're very correct, sir. There are considerable differences between different levels. Specifically, talking about gymnastics, which is what we reviewed, there's the club level, then the provincial and territorial level, and then the national level. The different levels don't particularly get along with each other.

Status of Women committee  Thank you very much, Madam Chair. At the outset, I want to say that I'm not receiving any translation. Is there translation? I cannot understand French.

Status of Women committee  Yes, I do. I've put it on “English”.

Status of Women committee  Yes, everything is working for me. Thank you.