Finance committee  I think the one thing to emphasize is that the tax was put in place to change behaviour and to discourage the consumption of carbon-based products. The two things that have been highlighted in Bill C-234 with regard to natural gas and propane use are two things that are needed on our farming operations that we can't change.

Finance committee  Certainly, the efficiency on that end is a mixed message. It's telling us to reduce on one hand, and then increase production in the case of food security. Going forward, I think the one thing that is missed is the efficiency of farming operations currently and that we are doing a good job.

Finance committee  Thank you for that comment. Yes, I think the sentiment of the majority or of all producers is that what we're doing is something we have a lot of passion for. We do it well; we do it efficiently, and we certainly do it sustainably because we want to ensure that the next generation will be here to farm in the future.

Finance committee  Yes. Thank you. Thank you again for the expansion of that fund for clean tech. It's quite limited in the amount of money that is available, in that smaller operations were not able to access the funds due to, I guess, the stopgap of looking at larger operations, larger applications.

Finance committee  Good morning, Mr. Chair and honourable members of the committee. Thank you for having me here today to present on behalf of Manitoba farmers for the 2023 federal pre-budget consultations. My name is Jill Verwey. I'm the president of Keystone Agricultural Producers. I operate a multi-generational mixed farm with my husband and children near Portage la Prairie, including approximately 8,000 acres of grain production, a beef herd and a dairy operation.