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Justice committee  There's a broad spectrum of mitigation. One of them could be the frequency of controls. Another one could be some transparency in the flow of monies. It could be limiting the operational area where they will be deployed. There is actually quite a long list.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  Yes, but the regulatory process will follow passage of the bill and be established in collaboration with organizations that work on the ground. The goal is to make sure that the content of the regulations line up with real situations experienced by the organizations. We don't yet have all the details on what we're going to include in the regulations, but work is being done in that respect.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  It will include those organizations.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  No, we will have to send you the potential list of NGOs.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  In very broad terms, what we're offering is a regime that offers the best balance between the need to protect against known terrorist financing and the degree of humanitarian assistance in development aid. If we were to simplify to the extreme, having a humanitarian carve-out would not provide the full flexibility that this regime will offer, because it also includes developmental assistance and safe passage.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  I can assure you that government representatives worked very intensively throughout the entire process.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  I don't have those details with me, but…

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  We will do what we can to send you an answer on that.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  A listed entity is an organization that's been through a rigorous process of examination and has now met a certain legal threshold, whereas with a terrorist group organization, one of its activities is to support terrorist activities, which is also explained in the Criminal Code.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  I think we've been over this a few times.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  I think we've given you all the possible answers to that question. The bill is on the table, but we have not yet received all the amendments. So we don't have a clear picture of the entire bill yet. Furthermore, we have put on the table what we thought would make the bill most effective and adequate considering the reality.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  I will let the Department of Justice describe all the options, but it's clear that we reviewed everything the allies did and the issue of exclusion. However, considering the current legal regime in Canada, the conclusion was that it was the most appropriate option.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  This legislation provides additional tools to allow us to better control the flow of money to potential terrorist organizations. It does not create new positive obligations, but it does create a regime—a mechanism by which these organizations can operate in complex situations across the world, where it is known there's a risk of money flowing to terrorist organizations.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  We're quite aware of the needs behind each and every application. The government has also provided funding in the budget to augment the resources and to dedicate to this new mechanism that's going to be in place. Obviously, the whole system will be geared up for an expedited process.

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

Justice committee  Well, that's a hypothetical question, but we're not in a position at this point to establish service standards, because the time it would take to process the application will be relative to the nature of the activities they're going to be performing, the complexity—

April 17th, 2023Committee meeting

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère