Industry committee  I'm not sure I understand your question. Is it an obligation for transparency in...?

Industry committee  This isn't related at all to this topic. I don't see the relation. AI creation of copyright-protected works and the extent that they draw on other works or whether they're transformative works is the topic of a lot of copyright conferences right now. I would say I don't really think there's any clear consensus in copyright law at all on that right now.

Industry committee  The deletion of “sole” in the.... Do you want to take this one?

Industry committee  If I perceived your question correctly, it's about interoperability and how it would relate to AI going forward. If you're looking at AI, it's really the same issue that we have here today. Whether it's software that enables an AI interface or software that enables an operating system for a tractor, it's still software and it's protected under the Copyright Act.

Industry committee  Ms. Lovrics, could you address this question?

Industry committee  Just to be clear, I don't have trade expertise. I'm an intellectual property lawyer. I have copyright expertise.

Industry committee  It's just one of the things we want to bring up in terms of how broad the approach is and how we would recommend more of a regulatory exception-by-exception approach, as they have in the United States. It's done through the Library of Congress. Every year they come out with a list of exceptions.

Industry committee  I would defer to my colleague Catherine Lovrics on this question. I know that she's more familiar with that case.

Industry committee  In terms of the objective of the bill, which is to take away barriers to interoperability to improve businesses like Honey Bee and other agricultural parts manufacturers, the issue is just a technical one. The current CUSMA section on technological protection measures and exceptions to them doesn't allow for non-infringing exceptions.

Industry committee  I don't know why the issue of AI in TPM and interoperability hasn't been raised in negotiations with the U.S., but I'm not involved in international negotiations at all. From the perspective of how IPIC would talk about AI in the context of TPMs, it would be in terms of the safety and security risks that we flag when you put in an amendment that is far too broad.

Industry committee  Thank you. Mr. Chair and honourable members, on behalf of the Intellectual Property Institute of Canada, thank you for the invitation to appear today as part of INDU's study. My name is Colleen Stanley, and I am here as a member of IPIC's copyright committee and a member of the subcommittee on interoperability.