Transport committee  There have really been some unprecedented events in recent years, and we certainly need more resilient infrastructure. Definitely it has an impact throughout the supply chain. We're definitely all interested in trying to reduce GHG emissions where possible.

Transport committee  Sure. That's fine.

Transport committee  I'm sorry. I think my camera is frozen again.

Transport committee  No. Because some of the anchorages of concern that have been raised today are outside the port authority's jurisdiction, our members have agreed to follow an interim protocol that was established with Transport Canada and the port authority. We're actually doing a nighttime planning pilot right now where vessels will not arrive between the hours of 11 p.m. and 7 a.m., I believe.

Transport committee  What Bill C-33 does do is try to manage how ports handle disruptions. When we talk about the increased use of vessels at anchorages, we've had a significant number of disruptions in the last five years. We've mentioned that anchorages are a symptom of a supply chain that isn't working.

Transport committee  Yes, it potentially would, under the Marine Transportation Security Act.

Transport committee  For instance, I think every marine facility has a security plan in place. If they have to incorporate how they manage human health risks within those marine security plans, that will create a lot of work for the marine facility itself. There will be some interaction with the ship base requirements as well.

Transport committee  We have not, at this point.

Transport committee  Under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, vessels can actually anchor whenever necessary, but we know our carriers don't want to do that because of the potential unknown risks. We understand that there really is no process for establishing new anchorages. When the harbours board—I think that's what it's called—dissolved, the anchorages outside of port jurisdiction were left in an unmanaged sphere, I guess you would say.

Transport committee  The ports, and the port of Vancouver specifically, are already moving forward on allocating anchorages, so there are authorities within their current letters patent that enable them to direct traffic within their jurisdiction and vessels that are due into their port as well. Data is a big part of what we need to improve our operations.

Transport committee  Frankly, I don't see much in it.

Transport committee  I think it's the reliability. There's such a demand on the railways right now. There's quite a diversification of cargoes that are moving right now. Fortunately, right now the container volumes are lower than usual, so we should have better fluidity than in previous years. It's just managing the diversity of cargoes that are coming through the ports.

Transport committee  That's correct. Then we have a harbour authority that actually receives quite a number of cruise vessels, yet it's not a port authority. That certainly needs to be looked at carefully.

Transport committee  There's been tremendous growth in our bulk exports through the port of Vancouver. There have been some changes as well in the operational policies within the port, where vessels are limited to stay seven days within the port of Vancouver. We do often see vessels bouncing around more often.

Transport committee  It's similar to what Mr. Dekovic just mentioned. Our concern would be the politicization of the chair appointment.