Natural Resources committee  Certainly, we would like to see more. There are two types of spending on pine beetle. One is actually dealing with the research and stopping the beetle. I know the folks in Alberta are especially worried that there is insufficient federal money being spent fighting the pine bee

Natural Resources committee  I certainly would much prefer to get $6 billion, and if not $6 billion, then $4 billion, or $3 billion, or $2 billion. As I've said many times, we're not going to be anything but respectful of $1 billion well spent, but we're also not going to pretend that it's sufficient compar

Natural Resources committee  That's not what I said.

Natural Resources committee  Well, let me say it again. We'd much prefer to get far more, and it is not sufficient to allow us to compete with what our American competitors are getting. You didn't even mention what the Europeans are getting, which is also very generous. So yes, we would like more.

Natural Resources committee  The biggest was the green transformation fund—the billion dollars that I was acknowledging. It was a lot, and I want more. Our competitors get more. That billion-dollar program was available only for environmental enhancements. Those environmental enhancements almost all increase

Natural Resources committee  Yes, and me too, because I've been saying lumber as well. But it's good to remember that those markets are hugely important for the pulp and paper industry as well. The next big one is India. We're already the largest exporter from Canada to India, but we haven't even begun to

Natural Resources committee  Yes, and sometimes it's a very small barrier, but there's one mill that would stay operating. There was one mill making cement bags that couldn't get into Egypt because of a trade barrier. By removing that trade barrier, that mill keeps going. So even though it's a small percenta

Natural Resources committee  For the most part we represent the integrated companies. We have a few single sawmills, but not many. The reason for that is that they find it easier to be represented by their provincial associations. In all our representations to Parliament, we consult with the provincial assoc

Natural Resources committee  That's correct.

Natural Resources committee  We represent some of them directly; we certainly represent their interests.

Natural Resources committee  Goulard Lumber and all the little companies depend upon access to the U.S. market, even if they don't sell directly to the U.S. If we don't have access to the U.S. market, then all the big companies are going to flood the Canadian market. They are dependent on keeping the softwoo

Natural Resources committee  We've been debating loan guarantees for many years inside the industry. We have two problems with them. One is—and we don't say this outside that much, but it's the truth—if you have three companies and two of them can make it without a loan guarantee, they don't want the other c

Natural Resources committee  We can talk more later.

Natural Resources committee  First of all, the majority of the responsibility has to rest with the industry to do it. Yes, you can extend the programs in which you're speeding up transformation, replenish the IFIT program, which is just about empty now, with another $300 million, extend the funding for R and

Natural Resources committee  Good question. Just one correction. We all talk, and I do it, about exporting lumber. Our biggest export is always pulp. We export tons of pulp. We export more pulp to China than we do lumber, more pulp and paper to India than we do lumber. So let's not forget—