Veterans Affairs committee  Yes. I am speaking about training the medical side. Our medics should receive women's health training. They are supporting our female members. They are their first line. Our doctors also should be receiving women's health.... If we don't want to allocate resources to that, provide a women's health specialist.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  I would say that we've started. For an injury surveillance system, you need to identify what problems exist. Then you need to identify who is actually experiencing those problems—who's the most vulnerable. Then you can start to break it down to look at what's actually causing these injuries.

Veterans Affairs committee  I'm a physiologist, so I study the physical body. I'm not a psychologist. Some of my research has looked at the relationship between postpartum depression and injury risk. There is a relationship between postpartum depression and increased susceptibility to overuse injury. We see miscarriage as well and an increased susceptibility to MSKI.

Veterans Affairs committee  They're Canadians.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, they are. We've left them behind.

Veterans Affairs committee  Some of it didn't come through, but I think I got what you're saying. You're wondering who should be responsible for researching the physical health of women veterans. If that is the case, we need to first have an injury surveillance system through the CAF, so that when they come out of service, we can understand.

Veterans Affairs committee  I think it's a great idea. I also think that it would be great to know what injuries are actually impacting our members. We don't have an injury surveillance system.

Veterans Affairs committee  Yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  We don't have women's health training, so if you don't know to ask the question, why would you ask the question?

Veterans Affairs committee  If you look just at pelvic floor, you will see that there is a category on the VAC checklist. This document is massive. They have tables of criteria asking, “Do you fit this? Do you fit this?” However, I don't know anyone who has successfully put in a claim for this. The reason is that we only....

Veterans Affairs committee  It's a medical issue. If you have repeated trauma to your breast and that's the alternative they can give you, eventually, that's the alternative.

Veterans Affairs committee  This is paid for by the CAF, yes.

Veterans Affairs committee  You're wondering if medical services are paying for these operations. It's through the CAF health services. They're not paying for it out of pocket, if that's the alternative you're asking about.

Veterans Affairs committee  I actually have a story. One day in 2016, a member started experiencing mild discomfort in her left rib cage. At first, she didn't think much of it, but she started having shortness of breath, so she followed up and went to MIR. She had severe chest pain. During her intake, the medical staff reviewed....