Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  We have special analytical materials about the endgame scenario for the Russian war against Ukraine. According to this scenario, there isn't a possibility to have a sustainable peace through diplomatic or political tracks. Russia had 50 wars during 200 years, and sometimes the results of the wars had only one outcome, which was about when the next war would start.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  May I...?

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  One small recommendation is about journalist investigators, who are very useful. We know they have done a lot in the past about different crises and in cases in Ukraine and in Russia. Let's support them instead of CSOs in Russia. They have already given us access to very important information about Russian aggression and the war against Ukraine.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I totally and generally agree with the first speaker, and I need to highlight that we don't have much time, but we can start, because we already have case studies from those who have gone back to Ukraine but who stayed in Russia for a very short period. At the same time, there is nothing new about awareness, psychological support and mental recovery, which have to be developed as a big program for Ukrainians, because we have to understand that those children who were kidnapped or relocated to Russia will return when they are more or less adults.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you very much for this practical question. I don't have an ideal answer for you, but it's about a complex of measures. First of all, Canada can continue to help develop the capacity for central preliminary documentation and investigation of crimes of aggression. In a future perspective, we will battle children when Russia is punished, and high-level politicians in Russia will know that it's politically and legally tracked for the future.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes. I totally agree. This is a crime against humanity, but we need to develop our case on genocide, I believe.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes, as sanctions. Separation of the family is a sanction against parents who will not give their children to the Russian education system.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes, and I'll add a few other options, because the policy of Russia doesn't have one face. Many people are suffering in occupied territories because adults and families know that if they don't give their children a chance to enrol in Russia's very aggressive education system and involve their children in it....

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you for your question. If I might, I have a few sentences. Let's separate the 10 years of ongoing war from the last 20 months. I testified for the committee last year, when Russia organized fake elections in the occupied territories. You may know that I had one very important message: After this process, Russia would mobilize Ukrainian civilians—men—for their army.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  I can answer, because it's a little bit of a political question rather than a legal one. I believe that pain is the same everywhere. That's why we have sympathy for those civilians and children who are suffering because of other wars. At the same time, I strongly believe this is very dangerous for Ukraine and Ukrainian society, because without military aid and without financial aid, Ukraine will not have the capability to continue to defend itself and its own society.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  This is a very easy question if we look at some parallels from history. I usually share my personal story that my son is the first generation in my family to suffer from Russia, from Moscow. It was the tradition in the USSR stage of development of this empire that the first priority for Moscow was to have the children under the power of the authoritarian type of ideology.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Yes, indeed.

Subcommittee on International Human Rights committee  Thank you to everyone. I hope I will have more time during the question-and-answer session with my colleague Andrii. We will share as much information with you as possible. Dear members of the subcommittee and dear participants, since February 24, 2022, when Russia started its full-scale invasion, numerous violations of fundamental human rights and devastating crimes have been committed by the Russian army and politicians against the civilian population of Ukraine.