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Citizenship and Immigration committee  Unfortunately, I'm not able to give you the number of investigations that are jointly investigated, but I can say that a large number of our human smuggling investigations that have to do with border security are jointly investigated. We have integrated teams with the Americans on the intelligence side, as well as the operational side, at marine and land...and airports.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I would say that the RCMP is always going to be accepting of any resources, financial or human, that come our way to better attack this particular problem in all the integrated ways that we're doing that with partners.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'll be quick, in the interest of time. As I said to the other member who asked a question, we work within the legislative framework that we have, so it's not that we've turned our minds to what needs to be done differently necessarily. However, I can certainly take the question back and do some analysis at the RCMP to see if there's a different response.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you for the question. There was no internal information that would indicate that they were exploiting any situation in particular. I would echo the comments of my colleague from CBSA that organized crime—

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I would just underline the fact that organized crime will find vulnerable folks and exploit them regardless of the circumstances around that.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'll commit to go back with that.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you for that, Mr. Chair. I will endeavour to go back to the RCMP and ask about that data. I know we have data. I know there's data that we can track. I'll see what we can do about how we break that budget down in federal policing as it pertains to positions looking at border integrity.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Again, I'll certainly commit to go back and endeavour to get that breakdown for you. Are you talking specifically human trafficking cases, or human trafficking and human smuggling?

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you very much for the question. What I would say is that it's very difficult for me to comment on exactly what the circumstances were of the investigation at that time in that particular instance. However, I know our officers.... When we get integrated intelligence from our U.S. partners, particularly at the border in these sorts of cases, we obviously don't catch all the trafficking and smuggling that comes across, but from time to time, we get intelligence that we can act on.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Yes, I'll give a brief answer. Thank you for the question. I have no information that suggests to me that we're cutting any positions at the border. On the border program, as I said before, because we had a more critical mass of officers, whom we had reallocated from other units, at Roxham Road, that does not mean that we're taking any resources away from the federal policing border program.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you very much for the question. In response to the question, what I would say is, as the national police force, the federal policing border integrity program relies heavily on domestic and international partnerships to detect, deter and investigate organized crime. I certainly am not in a position to speak to the author's conclusions that he has documented.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I certainly can't speak to whether it has increased or decreased since 2015. All I can say is that we currently have a position where we are fighting it with everything that we can, and I can say that, for our international and domestic partnerships and the kind of multi-layered approach that we have to the border, the federal policing border integrity program is very good at identifying organized crime and investigating it where it's detected.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you for the question. I would agree with the commissioner about the reallocation of resources—for certain. Roxham Road was one particular point where we amalgamated a lot of resources. Some of those resources were already dedicated to the federal policing border program.

February 7th, 2024Committee meeting

C/Supt Richard Burchill