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Industry committee  Mr. Lake alluded earlier to the fact that consumer complaints come in from the gasoline sector but they don't come in when green beans are being measured. I don't know why, other than the fact that gasoline is a high-profile sector for consumers. Nonetheless, consumers are just a

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  I think that question really has to be directed to Measurement Canada and the creators of the bill, asking them what are the expected benefits.

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  The data that was presented in the Ottawa Citizen article, Measurement Canada's data, has what we call in the statistical world a data skew from what you would expect from a normal distribution. So you would expect that 50% of the time the pump would fail or wear in favour of the

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  Excuse me, yes. It's .15. It's between 50%, where you would expect it to be, versus 74% or 65%. So 50% points to the centre of the normal distribution. The reason for that skew, in other words, the reason for there being more pumps favouring the retailer than the consumer in

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  The current short title of the act, Fairness at the Pumps Act, certainly sends a connotation that there is no fairness today. And I think that is not the case. Measurement Canada has been clear in their testimony and in other activities they've taken on that there is fairness at

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  Yes, it is accurate. I also want to emphasize that the regulatory component of this, the development of the regulations, is going to be a very important part, because the legislation as it is today does not define a violation. The Library of Parliament's legislative review righ

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  As I understand it, the two-year inspection cycle is not in Bill C-14 but will be decided in the regulatory regime. From our perspective, the two-year cycle is a logical cycle for the large urban sites. As I mentioned, the greater the volume going through a pump, the more it wear

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  Absolutely. The current regime in weights and measures is clear that deliberate fraud and deliberate tampering are absolutely unacceptable. A retailer is also a business person with integrity, and that person worries about the volumetric balance in their gas station as well as th

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  The tolerance level is very relevant from an understanding of the mechanical workings of all these meters. The meters are different, depending on the sector, as well as the volume that is being delivered and as well as the material that is being delivered. All these things have a

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Industry committee  Good morning. I would like to thank the committee for the opportunity to make this submission on behalf of CIPMA members regarding Bill C-14, an act to amend the Electricity and Gas Inspection Act and the Weights and Measures Act. The Canadian Independent Petroleum Marketers As

June 15th, 2010Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Subcommittee on Oil and Gas and Other Energy Prices committee  I can start. There's no question that there is a very strong correlation between price at the pump and oil industry profits—no question. The oil industry profits we're talking about relate fundamentally to the oil industry that's what we call the upstream. Call it pointing fing

August 27th, 2008Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Subcommittee on Oil and Gas and Other Energy Prices committee  For Canadians buying gasoline day in and day out, it is not the person who owns the gas station who's making the money. It is, recently anyway, the crude oil producer.

August 27th, 2008Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Subcommittee on Oil and Gas and Other Energy Prices committee  The most important thing for Canadians to understand is that the price at the pump is underpinned by the wholesale price of gasoline. Crude affects the wholesale price of gasoline, but gasoline impacts the wholesale price of gasoline. In other words, the world trades in gasoline

August 27th, 2008Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Subcommittee on Oil and Gas and Other Energy Prices committee  I think the scenario you paint is correct, with perhaps one exception, and that is that the incremental supply of fuel in Ontario is from Petro-Canada in Montreal via the pipeline that runs between Montreal and Toronto. The last barrel, if you will, comes in from Montreal. There

August 27th, 2008Committee meeting

Jane Savage

Subcommittee on Oil and Gas and Other Energy Prices committee  I'll just comment on the wholesale prices that underpin retail prices. Certainly in Toronto we've seen an increase in the spread between Toronto and Montreal on the wholesale level. Traditionally, Toronto runs at about 0.8¢ to a penny higher than Montreal does, and that reflect

August 27th, 2008Committee meeting

Jane Savage