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Transport committee  No. Because it was a private transaction between private parties, we did not.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  The only determination of the Government of Canada is to validate that the articles of continuance make reference to the obligation to maintain the operational and overhaul centres. That obligation has been met, and the obligation to follow through is an internal matter between A

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  Aveos, being a distinct company from Air Canada...I believe that would be accurate. As I indicated, there is still some ongoing discussion on the certification.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  I don't know the particulars you're referring to. Clearly, if it is the case that cheques are still coming under the auspices of Air Canada to Aveos employees, this may reflect the fact that the certification distinction between Air Canada and Aveos has not yet been consummated.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  Transport Canada's obligation is to ensure that the articles of continuance include the provisions stipulated in ACPPA, and we have confirmed at various junctures in Air Canada's history that those articles of continuance respect the obligations of ACPPA.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  No, that was a private matter between private entities. Transport Canada was not part of that discussion or arrangement.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  Thank you. Aveos is not covered by the Air Canada Public Participation Act. The obligations that exist on Air Canada are the only obligations under the Air Canada Public Participation Act. As a result of the restructuring that took place in 2004, the then Air Canada technical s

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  Again, I don't want to get into questions of interpretation, but I would say that the obligation that exists on Air Canada through its articles of continuance is a very general obligation to maintain operational and overhaul centres in the three locations. It is not specific in t

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  The employees of Aveos are Aveos employees. Many of them come from Air Canada originally. And I understand, as I indicated in my opening comments, that there is a certification issue before the CIRB right now in terms of separating the certification of those employees under the m

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  I'm not a lawyer either, and I will ask my colleague to supplement my comments. Again, I would make a distinction in your interjection between the obligation that exists to include in the articles of continuance that the obligation has been met. That is all that ACPPA requires o

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  I'll turn to my legal colleague.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  I can only repeat my answer. Because there is an indirect obligation, the obligation under the statute, which has to be respected, Air Canada must include in its articles of continuance the provisions that are articulated in section 6.1 of ACPPA. Those requirements include that

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  The interpretation is that the articles of continuance, the wording in paragraph 6.1(d), are very general. It is that Air Canada include in its articles of incorporation the obligation to maintain operational and overhaul centres in the three centres. That is as general as the ob

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  Yes, it is.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck

Transport committee  That's correct.

December 7th, 2010Committee meeting

Brigita Gravitis-Beck