Public Safety committee  That's the truth.

Public Safety committee  A royal inquiry commission said it in 1974. I contributed, in fact. I was pleased to learn that, five years ago, the movement served by the Toronto representative was asked what it thought about the content of Bill C-42. The suggestion isn't ours. Bill C-43 sought to make it inde

Public Safety committee  You asked us what we thought about Bill C-42. Bill C-42 enhances the power the commissioner already has in the law.

Public Safety committee  Are you only working on Bill C-42 or do you want to impose some other stuff? Can you do that as a committee? I don't think so.

Public Safety committee  That's exactly what we've been talking about.

Public Safety committee  Okay. It's with regard to any power that he has over the administration of the force. A member can go before a grievance process; give that independence to the grievance advisory board. It would be the same thing that is in the RCMP act right now. Do the same thing on discipline.

Public Safety committee  He is the last person.

Public Safety committee  Why do you have an external review committee? It's to review a situation that has arisen. If you have some people who are paid to do a job and they come to their conclusion, that conclusion should stand.

Public Safety committee  If you have a look at our brief, you will see that we are pretty clear on that issue. Obviously, access to the process must absolutely go through an external channel. An independent body must have the power to make a decision because, as Mr. Duggan pointed out, the commissioner c

Public Safety committee  I think they're going to let me speak. Let's not delude ourselves here. The point of Bill C-42 is to give the commissioner of the RCMP more power. But, as you can see from our brief, he already has all that power. Conversely, if we had independent labour relations tribunals or o

Public Safety committee  Mr. Girard will take over.

Public Safety committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I retired from the RCMP 3 years ago. I was a staff sergeant at the time. I spent 40 years with the RCMP, 33 of them as a division staff representative, meaning I represented members internally. Initially, you heard from Mr. Townsend. I did the sam

Government Operations committee  My question was aimed more at in what portion of Bill C-18 do you accept the portability of these organizations?

Government Operations committee  My point would be that you could include it in there as a definition.

Government Operations committee  I don't believe so. I was amazed to see that there were changes made to those pensions. I don't know how many years ago this occurred, maybe four or five. I'm amazed now to find out that there were some changes and that those issues were there then. Those issues would have been a