Procedure and House Affairs committee  Kairos doesn't have that kind of structure. The members of Kairos are the churches and the church organizations. We've just begun a new program of friends and companions. I couldn't say how many supporters there are in Quebec. There certainly are people. I've spoken there. I've spoken on the west island and others have been involved with ROJeP

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. As I said earlier, between our submission of our proposal in March 2009 and the end of that summer, there were questions. We worked back and forth by phone and fax with questions asked by CIDA. Our understanding is that all the questions were answered by early July, I think.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you very much.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, they're not anti-Israel or extremists. I think what the issue may be is that they work on human rights. They do name issues of criticism in terms of some of the actions of the Israeli government, not the right of the Israeli state to exist, which certainly Kairos has always supported and our partners have always supported.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I was just going to say that our positions are parallel, really, to the Government of Canada. They include a critique of the settlements as making it impossible to have a viable state.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't know what Minister Kenney's role may have been. I don't know what his motivations were. From the point of view of Kairos, the positions taken by our partners are ones that, while not always exactly the same as ours, certainly are not extremist and certainly not dangerous or harmful to Israel.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It depends. Our budget keeps changing. Right now our budget is--

Procedure and House Affairs committee  --about $2.5 million. But in 2009, when we were supported in part by CIDA, it was almost $4 million.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, actually that proposal was over four years.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  The proposal was 2009 to 2013, and the proposal included CIDA support of $1.6 million per year, a contribution of $500,000 per year in cash from Kairos and our supporters.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Yes. In fact we have raised more funds this year than probably ever before. So our partners are the ones who have lost out the most. We raise money from all of our member churches and organizations who make contributions. That's our core funding. We receive funding from religious communities; from foundations; from individuals, many of whom are monthly donors; from community groups; and from unions.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  My recollection was that the statement was that it has been decided that Kairos no longer fits CIDA's priorities.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That was the statement on that day.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  No, that's the problem, and we were certainly waiting. As I've said, the first letter from the minister, which was dated December 3, did say there would be a follow-up letter from CIDA, and we assumed that would be a substantive explanation. That is the confusing thing, what you've mentioned.