Justice committee  Yes, we certainly are.

Justice committee  I'm not aware. As I say, in 1997 I was more involved in the day-to-day operations of an organization.

Justice committee  Yes, absolutely. If you look at the timelines that are laid out—I did not study the bill in detail because that was not the purpose of our particular exercise—it is clear that they are quite restrictive.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  I couldn't tell you, because in 1997 I wasn't on the board, nor the executive director. I couldn't tell you.

Justice committee  It existed, yes. We've been there since 1962.

Justice committee  Yes.

Justice committee  I'm not aware of any studies she did, but I am aware that some families of victims have said they would like the clause to be removed.

Justice committee  Sure.

Justice committee  I believe you're saying there's some evidence out there that some victims are saying that, and there are probably a lot of other victims who are not saying that, but we're not hearing from them.

Justice committee  I accept that the ombudsman for victims speaks for victims and has gathered information from that angle. I am not coming to you from an angle where I represent inmates or victims. I am here as a representative of community-based organizations that work in crime prevention and c

Justice committee  I agree.

Justice committee  That is not what I'm saying, because I would not be so pretentious to say that.

Justice committee  Yes I have, and I'm sure that for certain families and certain people close to the victim it can be anxiogène, as we say in French. It can be stressful and very difficult.

Justice committee  Yes, it could certainly help to ease their stress at the idea of having to go through a process involving a judge and jury. That's all, it seems to me, because it won't ease their pain or reduce the harm caused; however, it will reduce the stress they may feel at having to go thr