You've asked some very specific industry questions. I'm not really an apple man, but I am a tree fruit grower in Ontario. We grow peaches. We grow a few apples, but we grow tender fruit. Frankly, I think the problems are pretty much the same. We're in a high-cost area, and the competition may or may not reflect their costs of production. Certainly, you mentioned a Washington State situation with apples. There was an attempt to handle that legally, and it was thrown out by the court. Everybody knows they're dumping, but the court decided, for whatever technical reasons, that they didn't want to go down that road. It might have been partly political. When you get behind the scenes, you never really know.
I don't know what the absolute solution is. But we can't continue to sell things for less than it costs to grow them, because the competition keeps coming in cheap. And there are a lot of reasons for cheap competition. It isn't just the U.S.; you know that. The rest of the world is coming in--duty-free; wide-open borders; a dollar an hour, or $2 or $3 a day labour; stuff like this. That comes in in the form of produce. It goes on the shelf. It's in direct competition with us, and we're paying $80 or $100 a day for our labour and everything else.
You can't keep doing that, period. I don't have an absolute solution. You need to talk to the apple people for an apple answer.