Mr. Jarvis, we want to thank you for coming, because this is an important issue.
The dairy industry is hurting today, and they obviously look to the processors because they use these products. It's probably one of the reasons the ice cream industry is suffering and is dramatically down. But you're saying the whole market is not growing.
This morning you were pretty scathing and condescending when you made that statement in terms of our supply management. I think the farming community and the dairy community are certainly going to be saying this. Mind you, we know now where the processors stand. If that is the position of the processing industry, then I think it's pretty clear that there is a wall of divide between you people and the primary producers. I think that is some reason for concern, and I have a real problem with that.
I realized this morning that we've come here to talk about a matter that is perhaps not understood as well as it should be by many people.
The fact is that you said the industry is not growing yet, but the soya industry is growing in terms of soya drinks and those kinds of products. What is happening? Have we lost the ability to convince Canadians? Are we losing the market because our product is not as healthy as another product in the marketplace? I think there are a lot of things, but who has failed in this issue?
Obviously, the soya growers are going to tell you that they're not making any money producing soybeans. But is the processing industry making more money selling soya drinks, rather than the others, because of the way they can buy the product, and it's a controlled product in the supply management sector?
Let's get some things cleared up here, because if money is the issue that's driving it and it's not a health issue, then I think we need to have that on the table.