Evidence of meeting #17 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was renewable.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Roger Samson  Executive Director, Resource Efficient Agricultural Production (REAP) Canada
B. Todd Moser  Vice-President, Alternative Fuels, Rothsay
Mark Nantais  President, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association
Gilles Morel  Director, Eastern Canada Division and National Office, Canadian Petroleum Products Institute
Gene Carrignan  Chair, National Fuels Committee, Canadian Petroleum Products Institute
Marc Toupin  Procedural Clerk
John Moffet  Director General, Legislation and Regulatory Affairs, Department of the Environment
Bruce McEwen  Chief, Fuels Section, Department of the Environment

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Yes, it's pages 6 and 7 in your package, if you've got your package.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

Okay, so that's page 2 and also page 3? Is that what--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Well, don't get confused, because there are a lot of page 2s and 3s in here with all the different amendments.

Work off the package that was circulated this morning. They have the page numbers on the bottom. Do you have that in front of you? I think it's better if we work off the same package; then we're referring to the same pages.

Pages 6 and 7, which is NDP-1, are amending the same section we're dealing with in amendments BQ-1 and BQ-2. One would then pre-empt the other.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

Okay.

What you're saying is if we adopt the Bloc amendment, then there's no chance that we can adopt my amendment? Is that what you're saying?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Yes.

Once a committee amends a line, it's amended; you can't amend twice.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

If we adopt my amendment, then there's no chance of adopting the Bloc amendment. Is that about right?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Exactly; that's because it applies to the same lines.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

So how do we decide who...?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

The Bloc motion was in first.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

Pardon me?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

The Bloc motion was in first, so that's how we do it.

Go ahead, Guy.

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Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

If we can't come a conclusion on it, I wonder if we could do the simpler ones and then come back and do the ones we might--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Do you mean we can stand these and move to come back?

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Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

That might be a suggestion. We could get the ones that we get agreement on, and then we'll concentrate on the ones that are more difficult.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

We're dealing with clause 2. We can stand the clause and come back to it.

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Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

Would that be acceptable to the committee?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I've got Alex next, and then André.

Go ahead, Alex.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

I didn't hear what you were saying, Guy. Could you explain that point?

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Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

I was just thinking that if we could get the ones we agree on out of the way, maybe that will help us to resolve some of the ones that we're having.... Maybe, as we go into some of the other ones, it will address some of the nuances.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

So what you're saying is--

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Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

Just stand this down.

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NDP

Alex Atamanenko NDP British Columbia Southern Interior, BC

You're not talking about the amendments, but about the clauses. Do you mean we'll get those that we agree on out of the way, and then we'll come back to the amendments?

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Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

Yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Go ahead, André.

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Bloc

André Bellavance Bloc Richmond—Arthabaska, QC

I have a problem with the fact that the amendments are incompatible. Amendment NDP-1 moved by Mr. Atamanenko infringes on provincial jurisdictions. That's a problem. I have moved my amendment and I would like the committee to debate it and vote on it.