Evidence of meeting #39 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was programs.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Greg Meredith  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Rita Moritz  Assistant Deputy Minister, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Jody Aylard  Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food
Danny Foster  Director General, Business Risk Management Program Development, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

9:40 a.m.

Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

On the previous interest-free portion?

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Yes.

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

Going back to the date of the advance to the date of default, he will be charged a quarter of 1%.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Okay. So he or she is paying interest on what was the previous interest-free portion back to the day of the default.

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

A quarter of 1%.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

But if you can't pay zero, if you can't pay the money, a quarter of 1% is just going to put you in more difficulty.

9:45 a.m.

Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

This is the requirement under the act we have, the legislative rules to follow--

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Okay. That's fine. I just want to be clear on the facts.

So there is a rumour out there, though, that the interest would be charged back to the origination of the loan. What's the story there?

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

The advances are in two parts. There's an interest-free portion and an interest-bearing portion. In the case of a default, the producer would pay 0.25% on the interest-free portion back to the date of the advance to the date of the default.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Back to the day of the original advance--

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

Yes, and then--

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Okay, that's pretty serious--

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

He or she owes the interest that was charged for the interest-bearing portion over that same time period, and then from the day of default to the day they pay the full balance, it's prime plus 1.5%.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Okay. Thank you.

The last point on that, for clarification, is this: the producer, if he is in dual commodities, would lose the rights to advance payments on other commodities that he is producing. Is that correct?

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

That is correct. Again, that is a legislative rule.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

Thank you.

Frank.

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Liberal

Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON

Greg, you spoke of innovation, of developing characteristics to improve yield and health attributes, and I appreciate that, especially, as you say, while we're in competition with Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Brazil, and Russia--and frankly, in the face of global warming.

Two days ago, we had a group of people here talking about the need for public research, not private research. I understand that only $125 million of your entire yearly budget is put into research, based on numbers that I've read. I could be wrong. Can you tell us what--if any--plans you have to expand public research and increase investment, and what suite of programs you might be looking at? Because clearly it's very important.

9:45 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Greg Meredith

First, on your introduction, the development of attributes to serve market needs is really becoming quite a competitive advantage. Just as an example, with canola we're looking at things like introducing more omega-3s, enhancing ultra-low saturated fat traits, and building into the crops some attributes that perform better at the retail level for frying and things like that, so you have a leg-up on your competition.

In terms of the research in plant varieties and other public research, we've increased our research branch budget fairly significantly since 2006. It's now $266 million. It was considerably lower, at around $190 million, four years ago.

In the course of Growing Forward, we've also developed a number of collaborations with industry and not-for-profit organizations. I'll just take you through some examples. We've partnered with the Western Grains Research Foundation to look at wheat varieties specifically. We've invested $8.2 million in that, and another $2.8 million in the same organization in an association of partners for barley breeding, along with $4 million in the Field Crops Research Alliance to look at drought resistance and disease resistance in field crops.

We have added three new breeders to our research branch who will do strictly public wheat breeding and we are hiring another four. Just as a small plug for our research branch, the committee might not be aware that over 70% of the wheat varieties planted in Canada came from our research branch. It is highly effective in producing new varieties that work for farmers.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I'll move to Mr. Hoback, for five minutes.

November 25th, 2010 / 9:45 a.m.

Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to go back to what Mr. Easter said, because there are a couple of things that have made it kind of interesting for me. Under the AMPA program, all the advances are guaranteed by inventories. Is that correct?

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

Yes. Advances are made--

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Either inventories or--

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Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

--against inventory, either planned production or actual production, but they are secured by BRM programs in the case of crops that are in production and not yet harvested.

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

So if a farmer is going into default, basically he's telling us that he no longer has the inventory, so he has either sold the product and not paid back the advance, or, in the case of a crop failure, let's say, he would need to have either a BRM program or crop insurance to offset that security. Is that correct?

9:50 a.m.

Director General, Finance and Renewal Programs Directorate, Farm Financial Programs Branch, Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Jody Aylard

Yes. Where they've used those as security, those offset the advance.