When you talk about a competitive environment, I believe I heard at a meeting the other day that of the more than 200 terminals and grain elevators we have in western Canada, only five of them have access to both lines, where you can say there's competition. The vast majority have access to only one rail line.
On the numbers I quoted--hat we're 40% behind in shipping at the local terminals--I got them from my terminal on the basis of anonymity. He said that if I stood here and said where I got those numbers his rail shipping would go backwards. It's very hard to have competition in areas like that when you're dealing with one shipper.