Evidence of meeting #23 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was market.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Debbie Zimmerman  Chief Executive Officer, Grape Growers of Ontario
Ron Lemaire  President, Canadian Produce Marketing Association
Martin Harry  Chair, Canadian Soybean Exporters' Association
Gordon Bacon  Chief Executive Officer, Pulse Canada
Martin VanderLoo  Treasurer, Canadian Soybean Exporters' Association

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Would everyone take their place, please? We need a couple more members for a quorum. I guess they are in the room.

With that, I'd like to thank all our witnesses for being here today. We appreciate your coming. I understand we have a PowerPoint, and just in case we run into technical glitches, which can happen the odd time, I think I'm just going to stray from the agenda here and allow the Grape Growers of Ontario to present first.

Are you ready, Ms. Zimmerman?

3:30 p.m.

Debbie Zimmerman Chief Executive Officer, Grape Growers of Ontario

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

You have 10 minutes or less, please.

3:30 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Grape Growers of Ontario

Debbie Zimmerman

Certainly.

I have a French version here, too, so I'm going to try to read from this one.

Thank you very much for allowing us to present today. I'd like to thank our member from Welland, Malcolm Allen, for the invitation to speak today before the committee. I will try to be as brief as possible as I'm going forward.

I'd like to provide some background information on the grape and wine industry and some context to the discussion on marketing and trade as it relates to Growing Forward 2. The Grape Growers of Ontario is the official organization, acting under the authority of the Farm Products Marketing Commission, which represents more than 500 growers on 15,000 acres of processing grapes, including 176 wineries in the province, and four viticultural areas: Niagara Peninsula, Pelee Island, Lake Erie North Shore, and Prince Edward County.

Ontario is the country’s leading grape producer, accounting for about 77% of Canadian wine and grape production in the country. The total farm gate value of Ontario grapes exceeded $78 million in 2011, and we had one of our largest productions ever, with 64,000 tonnes of grapes. Over 96% of that production is hybrid and vinifera wine grape varieties, and 4% are what we call labrusca or juice grapes.

The wine industry alone generates $600 million in retail sales in Ontario. That's in 2011. The grape and wine sector supports approximately 7,000 jobs in Ontario and over $100 million in direct wages.

A litre of 100% Ontario or Canadian wine produces $11.50 of economic impact, compared to $0.67 per litre of imported wine, for an added value of about $529 million per year. Each acre of grapes, which I'm sure you'd be interested in, generates $30,000 in taxes to the Province of Ontario each year, so we're building hospitals and schools.

In 1987, prior to the free trade agreement, there were 62,000 tonnes of grapes grown in Ontario, and 55% of those were juice grapes like Concord and Niagara. Farm gate value then was $26 million. Forty-six million litres of Canadian wine were sold, and our domestic wine enjoyed a 49% share of the Canadian wine market.

With the help of the federal government in 1987, the grape and wine adjustment program, because of free trade, became a game changer for the grape and wine industry. It has grown, matured, and established itself as a world-class wine region. This reputation for excellence was founded in the appellation system called VQA, which means 100% Ontario or Canadian grown.

While production of grapes is about the same today as it was in 1987, through the investment of vineyards, innovation, and research, 96% of Ontario grapes are now hybrid and traditional European vinifera.

What's interesting about all of this is that market share has not grown all that much for Canadian wines. In fact, it has dropped from 49% in 1987 to only 32% in 2011.

The 32% market share for Canadian wine sold in Canada includes wine that is 100% domestic content. So really what we have are two: Canadian, and international and Canadian blend. VQA wines, which are 100% Ontario or domestic grapes, are only 11% of market share in Ontario. Currently, you will find that Canadian-international blend contains only 25% domestic content.

Turning to Growing Forward, why is it an important component of growing the grape and wine industry? I think you're all aware of this. We have four components of Growing Forward. The AgriInvest, AgriStability, and Production Insurance have been important programs, providing a level of long-term stability to the agriculture industry by assisting with large declines in farm income due to factors that are quite often beyond the control of farmers. I think everybody understands that when it comes to weather, in our industry particularly, growing grapes in a cool climate is often difficult. Also there are the exchange rate, fuel costs, and adverse weather conditions.

The Grape Growers of Ontario encourages the government to retain these business risk management programs in Growing Forward 2 and recommends that the federal government participate with the Ontario government in the new self-directed risk management program, which will supplement AgriStability and AgriInvest.

The self-directed risk management program payments are reduced by the amount a grower receives through AgriStability, so that program provides relief in instances when AgriStability does not adequately cover a loss. For example, if a vineyard suffers significant winter injury and needs vines to be replanted, it will take four years for the vines to come back. It's not an overnight event. The reference margin used to calculate AgriStability payments will be declining during the years the grower has no income for the damaged vines but has the expense of re-establishing that vineyard.

The Grape Growers of Ontario congratulate Prime Minister Harper on the recent cross-border agreement reached with President Obama. We welcome the action plan for perimeter security and economic competitiveness and the action plan for regulatory cooperation, and we anticipate that these could have a significant positive impact on the Canadian horticultural industry going forward.

For example, our juice grapes are trucked to the U.S., because that's the only processing plant left for Canadian juice grapes, and quite often they are turned back at the U.S. border due to Federal Drug Administration, FDA, regulations that make it impractical for our buyers, and in fact for the U.S. buyers, to purchase Canadian grapes under the current situation.

We also thank Minister Ritz for taking this on, as we have asked that considerable time be spent on this issue to help our juice grape growers.

The juice grape growers have been subject to lengthy inspections and FDA protocols that have made it impossible for this industry to survive.

Why does our industry need Growing Forward programs to work more effectively?

Innovation is critical for our industry to survive, and I think we want to continue to be globally competitive. Our frustration has been that we have been unable to do that in the past. The horticultural industry is important, and we represent a number of sectors in our office in St. Catharines. We represent the Grape Growers of Ontario, Ontario Apple Growers, and Ontario Tender Fruit Producers. When I speak about AgriFlex, in terms of it being part of Growing Forward 2, I'm representing those industries as well here today.

The projects that a number of us had prepared under AgriFlexibility for the last couple of years would have provided cost-share funding for investment by growers and much needed technology and infrastructure. As an organization representing a number of areas—as I've described, apples, tender fruit, and grapes—we have produced a survey of growers prior to submitting the AgriFlex application. We had initial interest from about 127 individual grape grower businesses who were willing to invest $9.7 million with access to matching funds to be administered through the commodity organization. The other organizations obviously had a similar response from their membership. The AgriFlexibility applications from the horticulture industry were declined—all three boards were declined—when the program rules were redefined to prevent individual businesses from receiving funds.

Growing the local market is critical to sustaining the industry long term, especially given that market share of Canadian VQA and ICB wine has been stagnant for years at 32% of wine sales in Canada, whereas competing international wine regions hold shares upwards of 70% in our own market here in Canada, which is quite disturbing. In comparison, Australia owns 90% of its domestic market, California 63% of the entire U.S. market, and New Zealand 57% of its market.

In a presentation to the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry on November 29, 2011, the Canadian Vintners Association indicated that foreign wine producers around the world, including Australia, the United States, New Zealand, France, Italy, and others are financially supported by their national and regional governments for both export and domestic market programming for wine sales and regional development. For example, EU wine reform dedicated $1.2 billion to support the marketing of wine between 2008 and 2012.

Grape growers in Ontario and actually in Canada should not have to compete with the treasuries of foreign countries.

The federal AgriMarketing program, known as AMP, which has supported long-term, international marketing strategies, needs to be expanded to include domestic marketing programs to allow commodity groups to promote consumer awareness and encourage consumers to buy locally.

Grape Growers of Ontario strongly supports the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food’s recommendation in their third report, on the competitiveness of Canadian agriculture, to modify the AgriMarketing program so that initiatives to grow the domestic market for Canadian products can be eligible. We support that and thank you for it.

How's my time?

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

You're out.

If you want 10 seconds for a closing remark, that would be....

3:40 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Grape Growers of Ontario

Debbie Zimmerman

I was going as fast as I could, Mr. Chair. I apologize.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

No, I don't doubt that.

3:40 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Grape Growers of Ontario

Debbie Zimmerman

I think I've said just about everything I need to say. Certainly whatever is left in the document you can read.

I appreciate the time.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thank you very much.

3:40 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Grape Growers of Ontario

Debbie Zimmerman

You're more than welcome.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

We'll now go to the Canadian Produce Marketing Association. We have Ms. Proctor and Mr. Lemaire.

Take ten minutes or less, please.

3:40 p.m.

Ron Lemaire President, Canadian Produce Marketing Association

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Honourable members of the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food, on behalf of the Canadian Produce Marketing Association, I would like to thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today.

Some in the committee will know the CPMA from other events, like Horticulture for Health, but for those of you who do not know the Canadian Produce Marketing Association, we represent a fresh fruit and vegetable industry valued at over $9 billion in Canada. CPMA is a not-for-profit association that has represented the interests of the fresh fruit and vegetable trade in Canada for the past 87 years. Representing a vertically integrated supply chain, we support the needs and interests of member companies from farm gate to dinner plate. In short, the association includes grower-shippers, food retailers, food service operators, and most everyone else in between. As an example, members include the P.E.I. Potato Board, B.C. Tree Fruits, Loblaws, Metro, Sysco, and Gordon Food Service.

Within a membership of over 770 companies, CPMA represents the interests of 456 Canadian companies, including over 150 Canadian grower-shipper-packers. This diversified Canadian membership provides CPMA with a unique perspective of the issues and challenges facing the Canadian food system, domestically and internationally, on the primary production and market levels.

Recognizing that the committee is seeking information pertaining to two core areas, I hope to be able to provide some insight from the perspective of the fresh fruit and vegetable supply chain and food system in Canada, by looking specifically at how industry, government, and a range of diversified stakeholders and sectors need to converge to create a model that will allow Canadian companies involved in fresh fruit and vegetable production and sales to grow into the future.

The fresh produce business moves at a very rapid pace. Given the perishable nature of the business, it's no surprise the industry’s mantra is “sell it or smell it”. This reality adds to the complexity of the marketplace and the nature of how produce is sold and marketed. Some suggest that while investments by the provincial and federal governments in development programs are a part of the economic engine supporting our industry, we feel they aren't the key, but they are definitely the spark plug.

The fresh produce industry in Canada enjoys the benefit of a strong export and import market with our closest trading partner, the United States. Canada exports over $4 billion of fresh produce annually to the U.S. and imports approximately $7 billion worth. The successful importing and exporting of fresh produce relies heavily on the integrity of the Canadian regulatory system and policy tools that support our market. Effective regulations protect our health, safety, and the environment, while supporting growth, investment, innovation, and market openness.

As the North American market is extremely significant to the fresh fruit and vegetable sector, we are very pleased with the work currently under way by the Regulatory Cooperation Council. The RCC is an excellent example of how the federal government can support industry, potentially expand market opportunities through enhancing existing mechanisms, and foster cooperation in the design of regulations to ensure alignment in their implementation or enforcement. While this approach on a bilateral level with the U.S. is encouraging, we must also look inward on a domestic level to ensure consistent application and interpretation of existing tools, such as plant health regulations and others, to ensure the competitiveness of the domestic industry.

CPMA welcomed many of the recommendations from the Red Tape Reduction Commission report, and underscores the need to ensure that unnecessary or burdensome regulations do not negatively impact the competitiveness of the industry. It is also crucial that government departments ensure solutions developed for one commodity are not automatically assumed to be the best solution for all.

Traceability and the introduction of sustainable packaging, such as returnable plastic containers, or RPCs, are examples of innovation in the produce industry. Traceability supports the continued safety of food, while RPC utilization in produce—much like previous implementation in milk and meat crates for distribution—supports a sustainable delivery of produce from grower-packers to the distribution centres of both food retailers and food distributors. It is crucial that industry and government collaborate to address any existing or emerging regulations or policy that might negatively impact an industry's ability to deliver on innovations such as these. As an example, something is currently happening in Canada with RPCs at the CFIA level.

The fresh fruit and vegetable sector in Canada has not realized its full potential on the domestic and international level. There are many lost opportunities due to the complexities of the global marketplace and the lack of alignment between the supply chain, related policies, regulations, and gaps within an overall food system approach, which includes many intersecting stakeholders working beyond a linear sector model.

The Canadian Agri-Food Policy Institute identified that:

The issues and solutions affecting the sector are cross-cutting and increasingly complex, including those relating to reliable food production and supply, trade and market access, diet, nutrition and population health, and environmental sustainability and climate change adaptation. Positioning the country for future success depends on wisely managing these issues. Doing so requires changing the way we link broad food issues and connect agri-food and other stakeholders. It’s about adopting “food systems thinking’”.

As the report stated:

We need to stop talking only about sectors, value chains and product lines and start thinking more about agri-food “systems”. Future success hinges on taking a systems approach that better understands the connections among many diverse players [within the marketplace].

The produce industry has functioned within a vertically integrated supply chain for many years. Moving perishable products like fruit and vegetables required a chain to leverage partnerships and collaboration within a competitive and complex food systems approach. This system has included the traditional supply chain partners and has begun to expand beyond adjacent sectors, such as research, health, transportation, environment, food security, and beyond.

An example of this approach can be found in the recent development and launch of the produce transportation guidelines, which were created with cross-sector partners from Canada and the United States to address common issues and improve competitiveness within the marketplace.

Additionally, the produce industry has grappled with a range of challenges such as extreme variances in input costs compared to those of international markets, as we heard from the previous speaker; lack of tools to support regulatory requirements, and the lack of private funding to support needed market information, research, and innovation. To address these challenges, we recognize the opportunity to build upon existing successes, such as those of the RCC; to develop food systems within the produce industry, which will bring together intersecting sectors; and to improve research and competitiveness within the industry with our government partners.

The current provincial and federal government programs for fresh fruit and vegetables, which support public-private partnerships such as programs funded by the regional adaptation council and the work under way with the Vineland Research Station are examples of models that should be expanded. As the produce industry is made up of many small to medium-sized companies, there are limited private funds available to invest in areas that could be considered expendable or optional, even though they are essential to market growth.

As an example, tools such as single ingredient data to support fresh fruit and vegetable nutrition labelling in Canada are required and are unfortunately cost-prohibitive for many small growers. CPMA is working with Health Canada and Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to develop a top 20 list for industry.

Understanding market demand and trends is also vital as consumer needs and market opportunity are evolutionary within our social media environment. An example of work under way includes research in Ontario focused on planting and testing new ethnic vegetable varieties to meet the changing Canadian demand. This research is being conducted in conjunction with researchers, growers, and retailers to develop and test products, an example of a true food system.

Other projects include taste profiles. Taste is fundamental to selling more fresh fruit and vegetables. Growing good-tasting product is key. Breeding programs and consumer testing with peaches that are grown not only to meet consumer demand with regard to size and colour but also to offer the right taste profile to address consumer preferences are fundamental. Funding to support this research is needed. Research to develop a plum with the highest level of antioxidants of any plum in the market is another activity going on in Ontario. Across Canada, additional research supports innovation and enhancements in produce cultivation and production. It is crucial that all of this work continue.

This integrated supply chain model and developing food system can be seen every day in the fresh produce industry. They rely on policies and regulations that allow for the ease of trade and the reduction of barriers to get fresh fruit and vegetables to the consumer. The rule of “sell it or smell it” can govern many decisions within our supply chain. As noted, the lack of aligned or harmonized policies and regulations can dramatically impact the marketing and trade of fresh fruit and vegetables.

As we begin to see urban centres across Canada becoming more actively engaged in the development of a food strategy to ensure a sustainable food supply within their municipalities, we need to work proactively towards a whole-food system approach, which requires aligned policy development to support a cross-section of sectors and, in the end, produce safe, healthy food for Canadians.

The balance between our domestic import and export markets is vital. While we see a great emphasis on developing our “buy local” programs, it's important to recognize that we must work in synergy with the year-round supply of produce that all Canadians enjoy.

Our end goal is a produce supply chain that is delivered to consumers in a safe way. Industry and government play a key role in this goal. As part of the whole-food system, the produce industry recognizes the need to work collaboratively to support the availability of produce and to bring innovative products to market.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Can you wrap up, Mr. Lemaire?

3:50 p.m.

President, Canadian Produce Marketing Association

Ron Lemaire

Sorry, Mr. Chair.

In closing, we need the development of new markets and improved existing markets, domestically and internationally, for fresh fruits and vegetables. Canadian regulation, policy, and programs need to support research and innovation, adopt a food systems approach, and create economic opportunities for the produce sector.

Thank you.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thank you.

We'll now move to the Canadian Soybean Exporters' Association. We have Mr. Harry and Mr. VanderLoo.

You have 10 minutes.

3:55 p.m.

Martin Harry Chair, Canadian Soybean Exporters' Association

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you for the opportunity to present to this important committee. It's a pleasure for me to be here today with my colleagues from the Canadian Soybean Exporters' Association to present our perspectives relating to marketing and trade under Growing Forward 2.

I serve as current chair of the Soybean Exporters' Association, a non-profit association that represents members in all facets of the Canadian soybean industry. Also with me today is our past chair, Sue Robert, and our treasurer, Martin VanderLoo.

The mission of CSEA is to continue to improve the quality and value of Canadian soybeans and promote the export of Canadian soybeans and soy products into world markets.

I'm here today to talk about the value of marketing and trade to the soybean sector and to present our perspectives.

Canada grows approximately 3.8 million acres of soybeans. Manitoba, Quebec, Ontario, and most recently, in the last couple of years, Prince Edward Island were seeded to soybeans for a total production in 2011 of 4.2 million tonnes. Over the years, plant breeders in both the private and public sectors have developed different varieties of soybeans for a multitude of different uses that include industrial products, animal feeds, and food for human consumption. There's a chart in the brief.

Exporters are investing in the growing opportunities for Canadian soybeans. During the 2010 calendar year, Canada exported approximately 2.6 million metric tonnes of soybeans, with an approximate value of $1.3 billion. Of this total, it is estimated that 40% went as food grade—and when I say food grade I mean non-GMO food grade—representing a physical amount of 1.5 million metric tonnes.

These food grade soybeans provide additional revenue to the local Canadian farmer and grower in terms of premiums paid over and above the value of what the domestic oil processors would pay for soybeans—the Chicago Board of Trade pricing. Based on CSEA's recent estimates, an average premium of approximately $1.50 per bushel is paid. This amounts to an additional $87 million in revenue for Canadian soybean growers and it contributes to the local economy of the communities in which the growers reside.

Canada is a global leader when it comes to soybean quality and value. In a number of global markets Canadian soybeans are the first choice of food processors that are at the leading edge of emerging trends in value-added soybean products. Members of CSEA work in collaboration with the seed industry, soybean growers, and a dedicated handling system to ensure that Canada produces the very best soybeans.

Throughout every link in the value chain, from the variety breeder to the soybean grower to the receiving elevator, exporting members play a key role in ensuring the needs of the end-use marketplace. In addition, CSEA was instrumental in assembling the first comprehensive national standard for identity preservation—IP—through the Canadian Grain Commission. There's a chart in the brief as well.

Research is the key to staying ahead of the changing demands of the global markets. Growing Forward 1 offered this research component. The global soybean market is highly competitive, and the soybean specifications of individual soyfood producers evolve as they respond to their consumers' preferences. Soyfood manufacturers may specify traits such as high sugar, special proteins, high and low levels of isoflavones, as well as functional performance when used for the production of soy foods such as tofu and miso.

It is essential that the Canadian soybean industry keep pace with the changing demands for soybeans. Soybean characteristics are addressed during crop breeding and the selection of new soybean varieties. Because new soybean varieties must perform under Canadian field conditions and exhibit the quality characteristics desired by the food grade soybean markets, the development process is complex and resource intensive. Evaluation techniques that can accurately and efficiently identify the best candidate soybeans are critical to success.

Under Growing Forward 1, CSEA has a DIAP in testing procedures for food grade soybean evaluation that helps us overseas. Under the DIAP research initiative, CSEA and AAFC have cooperated to identify soybean characteristics important to the global customers and ensure that these characteristics are incorporated into new varieties. A key component of this strategy has been the development of lab-based evaluation protocols for selection and for monitoring the quality of the Canadian soybean.

I might add that there's another DIAP focused on research through the Canadian Field Crops Research Alliance—producer groups and industry—and it was at $8 million plus. It goes from Manitoba right through to the Atlantic Ocean. It's focused on the breeding of soybeans.

Collectively, these research initiatives and resulting techniques will enhance the capability of the Canadian soybean industry to remain in the forefront of global food grade soybean marketing. This initiative will benefit from the capabilities of CSEA access to market intelligence and AAFC's research team's unique capacity to conduct this research genetics, soybean seed biology, and soy product functionality. It's essential that Growing Forward 2 continue with adequate funding levels to ensure there's no interruption with these research programs. In the case of soybean breeding, it's a 10-year process from the hundreds of initial crosses to get one variety, with the needed food traits, to the growers and then to the market.

Another issue is transportation, which impacts the market competitiveness of Canadian soybeans. Over an extended period of time, CSEA export members have been receiving reports from overseas buyers indicating that the Canadian food grade soybeans are more expensive on a per tonne landed basis than food grade soybeans supplied by our U.S. competitors. Preliminary observations would indicate that this price differential is simply an issue of currency. However, further analysis identifies that competitors can move containerized cargo out of Chicago and Columbus over the U.S. west coast—sometimes over Canadian ports—considerably more cheaply than we can move cargo out of Toronto and Montreal via Vancouver. There's a chart in here.

The informal study of the containerized ocean freight rates comparing Toronto, Chicago, and Columbus, Ohio, reveal that Canadian firms are paying as much as $530 over published freight rates from Chicago or Columbus, and they go to the same destination globally. In discussion with various freight forwarders and oceans carriers, there are sometimes very clear indications that the differential between U.S. freight rates based on Chicago/Columbus versus Toronto is the result of rail rates. The situation has a serious impact on our competitiveness overseas.

CSEA would submit that the issue of the freight rates on eastern Canada containerized traffic must be addressed to ensure the continued competitiveness and access to global markets. This is a very serious issue for the soybean export industry and could have detrimental effects on the livelihoods of Canadian farmers, grain companies, processors, and shippers.

Here are some additional issues impacting marketing Canadian soybeans.

It is imperative that Canada participate and become a member of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Our overseas customers are asking about this.

The Canadian soybean export sector continues to work with our soybean breeders and researchers, as well as partners within AAFC, to ensure that there's compliance with the Canadian and international regulations on heavy metals and maximum residue levels. It is imperative that regulations by other governments are not put in place that would be an impediment to trade.

My fellow presenter talked about red tape and bureaucracy. CSEA is a small organization with limited financial and staff resources. We're all volunteers in this organization, except for a part-time staff member. Wading through the mounds of paperwork required for submitting a funding request requires both cash funding and commitment of staff to monitor and manage the application. The significant commitment to cash funds and staff time has precluded CSEA from applying for such funding from the current Growing Forward program. CSEA would submit that alternate methods of accessing funds for trade and marketing programs for smaller organizations such as CSEA need to be developed under Growing Forward 2 and still maintain accountability. It is CSEA's observation that larger organizations that are both well funded and well staffed tend to participate in marketing and trade initiatives under Growing Forward. However, smaller organizations like CSEA that are results focused can also play a role in turning marketing and trade initiatives into tangible Canadian success stories.

In summary, the Canadian soybean exporters sector provides employment and generates economic activity throughout all segments of the soybean value chain. While the soybean value chain starts with research and development of soybean varieties, it also includes production and growing of specialized varieties by Canadian producers, the identity preserved handling system and specialized processing activities of the grain elevator sector, and the transportation system that moves soybeans to market via truck, rail, lake freighters, or ocean-going freighters.

Once again, CSEA stresses that public research is pivotal to the continued success Canada has in the identity preserved soybean program. Canada is known around the world for success in breeding non-genetically modified soybeans. The soybean breeding programs have adapted over the years to meet the demands of protein, size, hilum colour, health characteristics, and, most importantly, yield for our growers that both international and domestic buyers are seeking.

The results are in the product. Canadian exporters not only maintain the quality of the soybeans they receive, but they enhance the quality. It is through this commitment that Canada can supply high-quality soybeans to world markets.

My colleagues and I would like to thank you very much and will answer any questions at the end of the session.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thank you very much.

Last but not least is Mr. Bacon. Go ahead for 10 minutes.

4:05 p.m.

Gordon Bacon Chief Executive Officer, Pulse Canada

Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. It's always a pleasure and a privilege to be asked to appear before the standing committee to share some of Pulse Canada's thoughts, and today talk a little about Growing Forward 2 and what we believe—

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Before you get going, the bells are going to be going off in about three minutes. We've got an emergency vote that we got word of. Just ignore them; we'll try.

What I'm hoping to do is let you finish your presentation, and I think we should have time for one five-minute round and then we'll probably have to go. That will still leave lots of time for us to get there, and we will come back. But we'll see how the time is when your presentation is done, whether we have some questions.

Go ahead.

4:05 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Pulse Canada

Gordon Bacon

Any strategy for agriculture needs to have a vision, and what I propose you consider is the vision we've laid out in the pulse industry, which is one that focuses on profitability. A focus on profitability says we have to get into a little more detail than just talking about meeting the growing need of the growing world population for food. We have to focus on profitability.

Growing Forward 2 has to be a business strategy that focuses on the issues that keep our industry competitive in the international marketplace. We'll just go through the first two pages and leave them.

I want to lay out what we believe are the four key points that need to be part of Growing Forward 2, and in part of the “foresighting” exercise that we all go through, I think we have to consider that we're probably going to have not more money—we may be lucky to get the same amount of money—but it's conceivable we'll have less. So in my discussion I want to talk about the four priorities in order of descending importance.

Number one is market access, and I really don't know that we need to spend a lot of time talking about it. Our sector exports 80% of what it grows, so market access agreements, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership, are key. When you're an export-dependent economy, you need access to markets.

Number two is under the category of food safety. We have an increasing number of non-tariff trade barriers. I would put into this category issues of low-level presence policies and chemical residue policies. I want to emphasize that everyone in the food industry is most interested in ensuring that we're protecting human health and environmental safety. The question is, what can we do to ensure that all consumers around the world have that confidence, but not have food safety issues become impediments to trade? I think one of the key areas there has to be harmonization of regulatory processes among governments around the world. Again, I would reference some of the comments that have been made about the Regulatory Cooperation Council, the recent initiative that just started with meetings in Washington, D.C. There is a need for codex reform. A lot of policy initiatives need government drive and support, and these need resources. So under Growing Forward 2 we need to ensure that some of these initiatives are properly funded.

Frankly, in our view, some of the departments, rather than having budget cuts, need to have additional money, because this is paving the way to allow business to be profitable and to be competitive on a global basis.

I'm cutting out a lot of really good stuff here, but you can read it later.

Number three is on transportation, and again, it's a point that's been made. A lot of things are on the go on transportation. As you know, I'm co-chair of the crop logistics working group, which is a committee that was set up by Minister Ritz to look at some of these issues. What I want to emphasize on transportation is that having a service level agreement in place is not the end point, and having facilitated discussions about a service level agreement is not an end point. None of us get to unfold the “mission accomplished” banner until we see performance statistics that say the entire supply chain is functioning better—and we never get to unfurl it, because it's a constant process of continual improvement.

We've heard presentations from the Canadian Soybean Exporters' Association. Again, as an export-dependent economy we have to be competitive. I'd like to remind the committee of a comment that was made when we did sign a bilateral trade agreement with Colombia, and that was that even with a 15% tariff advantage, some of the Colombians did not see Canada as a preferred supplier, because we were not reliable. So the focus on transportation has to continue as we go forward.

The last point is one that's been made, and that is that we need to be competitive in marketing and trade to be an innovative agricultural sector, and that means investments in research—not just investments in science, but investments that take that science and put it into the business community. So these are investments in innovation.

As a fourth element, as a key core principle of Growing Forward, we have to have investments in innovation that include investments in scientific research. All of us will have to do a better job of making sure that the public understands why public investment in research is a good investment for everybody.

Those are the four key elements that we see that will ensure we have a profitable sector.

The last comment I want to make is on the transition. When I look at the calendar, I see that we have 13 months left in Growing Forward 1. Being realistic, counting back from March of 2013 and starting to ask when application forms and policy decisions need to be done, all of you need to have the work done before you go on summer break. That will give the department time to put applications and programs together, have industry respond, and have applications submitted. It will give us ample time to review the applications and have decisions about funding for Growing Forward 2 in place by January 1, 2013. That will allow industry to be ready to roll with new programs and a new policy framework on April 1.

The timelines are tight. But if we're not going to have to get into bridging programs, if we're going to make sure that we have a strong government and industry partnership, that's what we're going to need.

Mr. Chairman, I will leave my comments there with those four points and a concluding comment about the need for speed, so that we have a seamless transition from Growing Forward 1 to Growing Forward 2.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Okay, thank you.

The bells started less than a minute ago, so we have 30 minutes.

Do I have unanimous consent to go to at least one five-minute round?

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Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

Mr. Chair, I think 15 minutes is cutting it a bit tight. Why don't we go with two questions and then come back?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I didn't say 15 minutes.

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Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Conservative Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

You said one five-minute round. That's five, 10, 15....

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

No, I meant a five-minute question.

Okay. We'll just carry on.

Mr. Allen, you have five minutes.