Evidence of meeting #42 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was animal.

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

Yes, I realize that.

5:05 p.m.

Government Affairs, Canadian Renderers Association

Graham Clarke

If you're a certified organic producer, you have to be under third-party certification through a certification body.

The rendering industry, of course, would not have that because they're taking inputs from the conventional industry. These rendering plants are large. Their throughput is 24 tonnes an hour, so the organic industry per se could not provide that kind of raw material.

Third-party certification was simply in the context of the organic industry.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Guelph, ON

Could I ask a quick question?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

Is it for clarification?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Guelph, ON

It's on the SRM he spoke of earlier.

I want to ask him what a renderer would charge a packer or processor per pound to get rid of their SRM.

5:10 p.m.

Government Affairs, Canadian Renderers Association

Graham Clarke

The answer to your question is that I don't know the answer to your question.

They have contracts. For example, Rothsay would take all the SR material from the Cargill plant in Guelph. That would be an individual contract based on volume. I don't have access to that information.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

Okay.

Thank you, Ms. Gibson, for joining us by video conference.

Mr. Clarke and Mr. Beretta, thanks for being here in person.

This is going to be a long study. At some point, we will have it. We really appreciate your participation. Thanks very much.

We have a bit of committee business to deal with. We will excuse the witnesses.

Thank you very much.

We have had a request. We are going to be moving, when we're done the red meat part of our study.... The indication before was that we would go into the poultry side of it. Although I don't have the information and details with me, we have had an invitation to go out, right close to Ottawa here, to see an egg-laying operation. I thought I would bring it up.

I don't know whether the committee would like to spend.... Basically, we could get a small van to take us out, or we could maybe get some cabs, or a couple of you may even have vehicles. We could use a meeting day for that and still be back in to Ottawa for votes that night. Would you like to use a meeting for that? I'd like some input.

Mr. Lemieux.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

I'd like to say that I think it's a good idea. I don't know how many people here have seen an egg-laying operation. It is something to see. This gives us the opportunity to witness it first-hand and ask the many questions that many of us might have.

As well, it's not very far, as you mentioned. There are no plane flights involved; it's simply down the highway a little bit. The area, I believe, is St. Isidore.

I'll tell you, one encouraging thing about egg farmers—

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

How far is that?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Lemieux Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON

St. Isidore from here is probably an hour, tops—maybe 45 minutes.

One nice thing about egg farming in this area is that there is quite a centre of it in St. Isidore. A good many of the farmers are young; they are probably in their early to mid-30s. It's very encouraging to see.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

The only thing I would point out is that if it's an hour there and an hour back, we would probably have to arrange with our whips, because we would have to miss question period. If we happen to hit a day when there are no votes, that's fine—when we get back is probably irrelevant, unless somebody has a previous commitment. I just remind you of that.

If the committee has a will that you would like me to look into this, I will bring back the details and a possible date. It sounds as though there's a willingness to do it.

There's one other thing concerning the committee itself. Including the trip to Guelph, the return of the three witnesses who were here last week, and one other meeting with the pork producers, the cattle producers, the Canadian Trucking Alliance, and what have you, we could have the red meat portion of this study done on June 4 and be ready to move into the poultry section.

Is that where we want to go? Is that enough meetings? I think, looking at the witness list, that it's a very good cross-section. I don't think we've really missed any part of it. I'd like some input so that we can plan.

Are there any comments?

Does that seem good?

I have talked to our analyst Frédéric. If we had our last meeting on the red meat on June 4, we would go into the poultry part of it on June 6. Whether that was the day we went to visit an egg barn or we actually had a meeting here, what we would do is probably have two or three meetings on that.

By that time, Frédéric and his staff would be able to have the report ready to consider. If we kept recommendations out of that portion of it and dealt with recommendations at the end, when we've added together the whole food chain and the red meat sector, the poultry, and whatever else we want to consider, it should be very easy and simple to have the report done and tabled in the House before we break in June.

Frank.

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Valeriote Guelph, ON

I'm okay with all the scheduling, but I have a question.

Our analysts have a great deal of understanding, experience, and knowledge in this industry. I have never known a committee to ask the analysts, “Is there anything we're missing? Is there a gap that we might cover?” I think it would be worthwhile to ask them whether there is something we may have missed in looking, for instance, at this issue on meat.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

That's a good point, Frank. I'll let Frédéric speak to it, but they do have input. I know they talk with David concerning some of the witnesses and what have you.

Is there anything further to add to that, Frédéric?

May 16th, 2012 / 5:15 p.m.

Frédéric Forge Committee Researcher

No.

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Larry Miller

I think Frédéric is usually not shy about offering, if he has to, and I appreciate hearing it as chair.

By all means, Frédéric, don't be afraid to mention something, okay?

Is there any more on that part of it?

Alex, you had something you wanted to discuss.