Yes, I think that's exactly the point. It's important that we do the full continuum—R, D, and T. So you do the research, you do the scale-up, you do the technology transfer, and it gets into the hands of the producers and the access markets, or the access.... They produce cheaper, or they have an attribute they didn't have before that they can market abroad. I think it's all about that. You have to make sure that you have your full continuum.
We recognize that we're not the only player. There are many other players involved, and that's why, with clusters, it gives us a chance for the private sector—industry as a whole, because the private sector is producer organizations as well—to do the technology transfer, and they're well equipped to do that.