Evidence of meeting #26 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funding.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Reno Pontarollo  President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie
Daniel Ramage  Director of Communications, Genome Prairie
Dennis Prouse  Vice-President, Government Affairs, CropLife Canada
Stephen Yarrow  Vice-President, Biotechnology, CropLife Canada
Andrea Brocklebank  Research Manager, Beef Cattle Research Council, Canadian Cattlemen's Association
Michael Hall  Executive Director, Canadian Livestock Genetics Association

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bev Shipley

Welcome back everyone. Welcome to meeting number 26 of the agriculture committee. We will be discussing innovation and competitiveness in agriculture.

I want to welcome to the committee today, from CropLife Canada, Dennis Prouse, vice-president of government affairs, and also Stephen Yarrow, vice-president, biotechnology. With us by video conference from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, is Genome Prairie, and I want to welcome Reno Pontarollo, president and chief executive officer, and Daniel Ramage, director of communications.

I want to thank you for taking the time to be with our committee today as we go through the witness list.

With that, I will start with the video conference from Saskatchewan. You have seven minutes.

Thank you.

3:30 p.m.

Dr. Reno Pontarollo President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the members of the committee for allowing us to testify on the importance of innovation and competitiveness in Canadian agriculture.

Genome Prairie is one of six regional centres across Canada that develop, fund, and promote genomics across many economic sectors. Being located in Saskatchewan and Manitoba, Genome Prairie is very active in agricultural-based genomics, and supports university and private research entities in applying the approach to their challenges and opportunities. Public-private partnerships are a powerful model for Genome Prairie.

Suffice it to say that genomics is high-throughput, computer-powered genetics that accelerates research and development. Many believe it is the most important innovation biology has ever seen. Genomics is changing the way we think today and the way we will live tomorrow.

I will use a metaphor of wireless communications to highlight the impact and progress of genomics over the past few years. I will remind you of the two-way radio, the cellphone of a decade ago, and the smart phone of today, which is basically a hand-held computer that everybody uses.

The evolution of mobile communications from innovation to common tool took about 60 years. In the same way, genomics has evolved from a novel scientific approach to a common technology. One can say that this began with the human genome project in 1986. When the human genome was completed in 2003, the total public investment was estimated at $3 billion.

Today we are close to sequencing a human genome in hours, and at a cost of less than $1,000. Genomics technology and affordability have progressed more rapidly than telecommunications. This rapid evolution in genomics has taken it from an innovation used in health research to a competitive tool used in agriculture in less than 20 years.

Innovation in agriculture today largely depends not on genomics itself, but rather on how the genomics technology is applied. For example, Genome Prairie has supported genomics research projects on wheat, rye, canola, and flax—our major crops.

In our flax genomics project, we originally planned to sequence a single variety of flax as a reference. Four years later we had sequenced the entire critical collection of flax varieties in the world—all 400 strains—and this is being used to help flax breeders identify new traits for future varieties.

Our rye project led to the approval of hybrid varieties of rye to be planted in North America. These varieties yield 30% to 40% higher yield than previous varieties. This makes farmers more competitive.

The dairy industry in Canada is leading the way in applying genomics to their breeding programs. Canada's contribution to sequencing the bovine genome in 2004 has resulted in a revolutionary change in dairy cattle selection and doubling of their mating accuracy. In economic terms, genomics-based genetic evaluation in the dairy industry has increased revenues by $180 million annually. In 2010 Canada exported over $100 million in dairy genetics to 98 different countries, and Canada's share of the global bull semen market sits at 20%.

This innovative approach is being developed in the beef, swine, and poultry industries as well, and will soon become a standard competitive business practice.

I want to change gears now and speak a little bit about how we invest in research and development, and how it relates to unlocking innovation and competitiveness in Canadian agriculture.

An article published less than two weeks ago in The Western Producer was critical of how public funding for agriculture is delivered. Short-term, low-risk, milestone-oriented projects dominate the R and D landscape. We feel this model impairs innovation and impedes competitiveness in the long run.

In the 1970s when two independent visionary research teams began thinking creatively about new crops for the Canadian prairies, they were not trying to change the world. They were merely being innovative and thinking long term. The results of these decade-long projects are a $20 billion a year canola industry and the emergence of Saskatchewan as the world's largest producer and exporter of lentils.

Both of these major achievements were possible because these research teams had long-term, stable, programmatic funding. Accordingly, I submit to this committee that in order to accomplish strategic goals we need to revisit long-term public funding models for Canadian agriculture to achieve major breakthroughs and help us remain competitive on the international playing field.

Finally, reaching our full competitive potential takes an innovative ecosystem. I will let my colleague, Mr. Daniel Ramage, describe that and have the last word.

3:35 p.m.

Daniel Ramage Director of Communications, Genome Prairie

Thanks.

I'll just build on what Dr. Pontarollo has been saying about this innovation ecosystem. I'll touch on a few points about education and the importance of communication in agriculture.

From policy-makers and business leaders to the general public, people are really faced with tough decisions surrounding agricultural biotechnology. That's why education is so important—so that decisions can be based on scientific facts rather than myths, assumptions, or misinformation.

There was a recent public opinion survey developed by Ipsos Reid on behalf of the BioAccess Commercialization Centre in Saskatoon that highlighted some of the public perceptions regarding GM technologies. The survey really showcased the confusion and the high levels of misunderstanding among Canadian consumers regarding GM technologies.

The majority of respondents surveyed believed that our poultry and strawberries and other products are genetically modified, when that's not the case in reality. This underscores a key challenge that's at the heart of our ability to drive innovation and competitiveness, because the truth of the matter is that without public understanding of the value of biotechnology, our ability to achieve progress in innovation and competitiveness will be really hampered.

At Genome Prairie we invest a great deal in education and outreach, but it's clear that a lot more needs to be done. We need to strengthen the Canadian innovation system with stronger levels of public support and understanding. So we recommend that with stronger science-based communication and outreach initiatives, we can make sure that people have access to the information they need to make decisions based on facts rather than fiction. That's a major factor in ensuring that the power and promise of R and D is realized for improved innovation and improved competitiveness in Canadian agriculture.

Thank you.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bev Shipley

Thank you very much for your presentation. I wonder if it might be possible to get the presentation, which we don't have but would get translated into both languages. There was a lot of information in it, so we would appreciate receiving it.

3:40 p.m.

Director of Communications, Genome Prairie

Daniel Ramage

Absolutely.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bev Shipley

I will now move to CropLife and Mr. Prouse or Mr. Yarrow. Mr. Prouse, for seven minutes please.

April 28th, 2014 / 3:40 p.m.

Dennis Prouse Vice-President, Government Affairs, CropLife Canada

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

We appreciate your invitation to be here today.

As I say, with me is Dr. Stephen Yarrow, our vice-president of biotechnology. Dr. Yarrow is here to answer all the difficult questions.

CropLife Canada is the trade association representing the manufacturers, developers, and distributors of plant science innovations, including pest control products and plant biotechnology, for use in agriculture, urban, and public health settings. We're committed to protecting human health and the environment. We believe in driving innovation through continuous research.

Our mission is to enable the plant science industry to bring the benefits of this technology to farmers and to the public. Those benefits manifest themselves in many different forms, including by driving agricultural exports and job creation, strengthening the rural economy, and increasing tax revenue for governments. Increased production due to crop protection products and plant biotechnology generates $7.9 billion worth of additional economic activity annually for farmers of field, vegetable, and fruit crops in Canada. Approximately 65% of Canada's food surplus can be directly attributed to increased yields as a result of modern farm practices, such as the use of crop protection products and biotechnology. Canada's canola industry, for instance, saw a 20% increase in yields between 2000 and 2009. This is largely due to improved genetics. The pace of innovation in the industry is increasing. Globally, CropLife Canada's member companies invest about 11% in research and development. About the same percentage is seen in the pharmaceutical sector.

This kind of innovation and growth, however, is entirely dependent on Canada maintaining its strong tradition of science-based regulation at the federal level. Canada relies on innovation and trade for prosperity and growth. Our members work in a regulated industry and they need the assurance that they are working in an environment where sound science, not political whim, is the final arbiter.

We are fortunate that at present the Department of Health's regulatory bodies, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Health Canada, and the Pest Management Regulatory Agency, are clearly science-based in their operations. We are pleased with the broader direction of science-based regulation at the federal level and see it as a model for other nations to follow. Science-based regulation is, however, under increased threat. Activist groups who do not like the results of science-based regulation would like to see it replaced with a more political, socio-economic lens. This would essentially be the model as seen in the European Union. Let us be perfectly clear: that is where this might lead Canada.

At present, Europe is the world's largest per capita food importer. European food production is decreasing as farmers are denied the tools they need to increase yields and grow new varieties. There are over 35 years of backlogs in approvals in plant biotechnology products that have received safety approval but are now awaiting political approval in the European Union. As one might expect, actions have consequences. In 2012 one of our member companies moved its entire plant sciences division out of Germany and over to the research triangle in Raleigh, North Carolina. Last year, another company announced it was withdrawing all pending approval requests to grow new varieties of genetically modified crops in Europe due to the dwindling prospects of these requests ever being heard.

However, it should be noted that Europe is one of world's major buyers of biotech grain, importing more than 30 million metric tonnes of mostly GM animal feed each year for its livestock industry. Therefore, Europe still embraces GM crops; they just don't receive the benefit of the innovation that goes into it. This is why it's so important that the federal government continue to defend science-based regulation both internationally and, increasingly, inside Canada's borders. It is the cornerstone of innovation and a vital component of modern agriculture. It is also key to our trade success.

Canada's economic prosperity is strongly tied to maintaining and growing export markets. There are exciting opportunities ahead for Canada to improve international trade in agriculture. As Canada looks for enhanced trade opportunities, it's important for all trade agreements to contain provisions for harmonized and science-based maximum residue limits of pesticides. This allows our farmers to use the latest pesticides without fear of a non-tariff trade barrier in the importing country.

CropLife Canada strongly supports the Canada-European Union trade agreement and we are encouraged by the provisions within the recently signed agreement on biotechnology. The global crop protection industry does, however, have concerns about the European Union's regulatory framework for plant protection products. Its approach moves the pesticide registration process away from a science-based regulatory system. This not only impacts trade and pesticides, current and future, but also the food, feed, and seed products produced using these pesticides. The import tolerance specified by the EU for these products is effectively zero, so even trace amounts of perfectly safe products could prevent the shipments from entering the EU countries.

The use of hazard-based cut-off criteria has the potential to have negative and far-reaching impacts on global commerce. This approach is not consistent with the World Trade Organization's sanitary and phytosanitary agreement, to which the EU is a signatory. We have concerns about the impacts of this action on Canadian farmers.

Here at home, fair, effective, and modern regulations are critical to Canada's future competitiveness, not only between Canada and other countries' agricultural sectors but also within the multinational companies that choose to invest in Canada. Science-based, predictable, and efficient regulatory systems will support competitiveness and continue to attract investment in Canada. Improvements through CFIA's current regulatory modernization initiative, while maintaining Canada's reputation as having one of the safest food supplies in the world, will be critical to sustaining and attracting investment in Canada. If there is one aspect of the current Canadian regulatory landscape that is causing a lot of issues with our members, it is the overly onerous livestock animal feed regulatory program, as it pertains to plants with novel traits and to novel feeds—products of modern plant breeding.

Intellectual property protection is essential to rewarding innovation. It takes seven to thirteen years to get a novel trait or active pest control product ingredient from discovery in the laboratory to full registration and use in the field. The cost to companies for each new product can be up to $150 million for products of modern plant breeding, and $250 million or more for new pesticides. In order for the Canadian economy to continue to grow and for Canada to be a centre of excellence in the knowledge-based economy, the support of intellectual property, patent protection, and protection of regulatory data must be robust.

To conclude, Mr. Chair, Canada's plant science industry has a proud history of encouraging and facilitating innovation that has been immensely beneficial to farmers, consumers, and the environment. Canada's climate of innovation at present is a very good one relative to other nations. There are, however, a number of opportunities for the federal government to undertake regulatory review and to take action on harmonization in order to ensure that regulations are as minimally prescriptive as possible. We support the need for regulations that safeguard the public and give them confidence in the safety of our products. At the same time, it is vital for governments to understand the role of regulatory reform in building a climate for innovation and investment.

On a broader scale, we encourage the federal government to stand up forcefully for science-based regulation. Our industry's ability to act as an engine for innovation and growth is entirely dependent on it.

Thank you for the opportunity to express our views, Mr. Chair. I'd be happy to answer any questions committee members have.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bev Shipley

Thank you very much, Mr. Prouse and both other presenters, for your presentations.

Now, we'll go to our witnesses.

I want to welcome Mr. Blanchette who is joining our committee today. I also know Mr. Toet was extremely excited about being here today.

I want to welcome both of you to our committee.

With that, I would like to start our rounds, with Ms. Brosseau for five minutes.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Thank you, Chair.

I'd like to thank our witnesses for being here.

Mr. Prouse, and Mr. Yarrow, I think we've seen each other quite often. It's not the first time you've come to committee in recent weeks, I would say.

I have a few questions for Genome Prairie.

I think this is the first time I've seen you at committee. You talked a lot about the accomplishments, innovations, and work you've done to improve yields of wheat and rye—I think you said by 30% to 40%. You even talked about dairy genomics. I think it was two years ago that I had the chance to go to Centre d'insémination artificielle du Québec, and we talked a lot about Starbuck and all the work that was done with artificial insemination when it came to bovine genetics.

I was just wondering if you could maybe comment more on how you see the federal government fostering innovation, and what kind of things or recommendations you'd like to see come out of this committee work.

3:50 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie

Dr. Reno Pontarollo

Are you speaking particularly to the dairy industry on this one?

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

It could be dairy or anything in general.

3:50 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie

Dr. Reno Pontarollo

Okay.

The good thing about the use of genomics in the livestock industry is that it is primarily being driven by the industry people and the industry players. They do this in partnership with government agencies and also with academic researchers, so the drivers on this are going to be consumer demand and producer profits. If there needs to be an active role in supporting that, it would be along the lines of making sure that Canadian producers and breeders have the ability to export their product to the rest of the world. There's great value in being able to do that. We wouldn't be giving away any of our advantage by doing that, because we would be a leader in the field. It would actually help address some of the security and food safety issues around the world.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Touching on that, how much do you think should be divided into public funding versus private sector funding, and how does it work? You seem to touch on so much. You mentioned the human genome, and how public investment was $3 million and that right now it's less than $1,000 and that you can do that work in under an hour.

3:50 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie

Dr. Reno Pontarollo

That was “hours”. It was $3 billion, by the way, not $3 million.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Sorry, $3 billion.

3:50 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie

Dr. Reno Pontarollo

The technology used when they started sequencing the human genome is 30 years old. The technology with genomics, particularly in DNA sequencing, has progressed very rapidly. It outstrips Moore's law of technology several fold. We've been able to bring the cost of sequencing and the time required to do it down by an incredible amount.

However, I would caution to say that does not necessarily mean the science part of it goes forward, as you have heard from our CropLife stakeholders in the room. It still takes seven to 10 years to get a variety developed. What the genomics can do on the front end of that is help them make better selections of breeding stock going in. But once you have that breeding stock done, it's still going to take seven to 10 years to get that moved forward. The plants only grow so fast, and so do the animals. We can't change that.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

I'm sure you're aware of Bill C-18, which will be debated in the House. I guess both of you are very supportive, as the bill...plant breeder's rights and how that is....

Do you have any comments on the bill? It's something we're going to have in the House in the next few weeks, I imagine, before we finish for summer break.

3:50 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Genome Prairie

Dr. Reno Pontarollo

My comment on that is that I'd like to see it move forward quickly.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

So, as fast as possible.

How much time do I have left, Mr. Chair?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bev Shipley

You have one minute.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Okay.

I wonder, Mr. Prouse, if you could talk about recent examples of innovation and success stories in your department.

3:50 p.m.

Dr. Stephen Yarrow Vice-President, Biotechnology, CropLife Canada

Thank you very much.

I don't know where to start, actually.

If you think about crop plants in Canada, if you think about the field crops such as canola, soy beans, and corn as a measure of success, these crops have definitely benefited from plant biotechnology research to the point where about 90% to 95%—depending on how you count them—of the varieties grown today have enjoyed the benefits of plant biotechnology. In other words, farmers are choosing these crops over other varieties. The reason is that these varieties perform at a better rate than the previous varieties in better controlling weeds—and if you don't get ahead of weeds in fields, they'll choke away the yields and so on from the crop plant you're trying to grow—and insects, particularly in corn, with the Bt corn varieties.

In that sense, we view that as a great success. And that success has been built on by combining these different traits in these particular crops—in the industry they call it “stacking” of traits—to provide farmers with even more choice.

In terms of success for the future—I know you didn't ask this, but just glimpsing into the future—this is, in our view, just the tip of the iceberg. Touching on what our colleagues from Genome Prairie are talking about in terms of genomics, and marker-assisted breeding and other ways of creating new characteristics in crops, we're going to see an acceleration in how varieties are developed and in the range of new traits going into different crops, way beyond just insect and weed control. I think fairly soon we're going to be seeing successes in drought tolerance, which is going to be particularly important in certain parts of the country for corn.

Further into the future, maybe in five to 10 years, we're going to start seeing some traits that are going to be of direct interest to consumers, like reduction in allergens, different oil profiles. In fact, we already see that in canola.

I hope I've answered your question.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Thank you very much.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Bev Shipley

Thank you very much.

I didn't read the clock right; you got a fair bit of extra time. It was a great answer, though.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Ruth Ellen Brosseau NDP Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Thank you.