Evidence of meeting #18 for Canadian Heritage in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was artists.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre-Daniel Rheault  Chief Executive Officer, Société professionnelle des auteurs et des compositeurs du Québec
Mark Tetreault  Director of Symphonic Services, Canadian Federation of Musicians
Luc Fortin  President, Guilde des musiciens et musiciennes du Québec
Mike Tanner  Director of Operations, North by Northeast (NXNE)
Riley O'Connor  Chairman, Live Nation Canada
Patti-Anne Tarlton  Chief Operating Officer, Ticketmaster Canada

12:50 p.m.

Chairman, Live Nation Canada

Riley O'Connor

This is the first time I've ever been in front of a government committee. We've been active over the last couple of years on some provincial levels, so this is new.

The live sector does not wave the flag or look for a handout. I've been in business since 1977 and never asked for a dollar from any government source, so that is not really what I'm looking for. I'm just trying to get the dialogue out there.

I'll echo everything that Patti-Anne has talked about, and I mentioned in the brief statement I made, the model that the film industry created in this country has been incredibly successful. It has resulted in real work for real jobs with studios, contract work, encouraging even artists at an artistic level from technicians to real technological change in terms of what's happening on the technological side of the business from special effects and everything else. The same thing can happen in music. That's what I'd like to open up the doors to, so that we can create that platform.

12:55 p.m.

Chief Operating Officer, Ticketmaster Canada

Patti-Anne Tarlton

The times are changing, and the live music industry is no different from other industries in the 80-20 rule: the 20% at the top make 80% of the revenue. But historically, with the revenue that went to the other 80%, they could make a good living; musicians with that 20% could live a good, middle class call it, family life. Again, they were using a lot of their recording revenues in that regard.

Today, how do we sustain the 80% of the musicians who are making 20% of the money? How do we make them vibrant so that they take the risk to stay in music, because a lot of them have decided they'll take a day job and they'll do music in their free time because they just can't make a living at it.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Right, and did you have a solution for that?

12:55 p.m.

Chief Operating Officer, Ticketmaster Canada

Patti-Anne Tarlton

I think that's what we talk about. Where we could focus on is how we keep those artists on the road. So we talk about building an ecosystem that's friendly and frictionless so that they can tour from Vancouver to Newfoundland, or Vancouver Island to Newfoundland, so that these people actually have sustainable careers. Again, if there are more environments for them to play in, they sell more tickets, there's more revenue, and they stay on the road.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

To clarify, at the present time, there really isn't a problem with getting artists and musicians to fill your venues.

12:55 p.m.

Chairman, Live Nation Canada

Riley O'Connor

I do 1,200 shows a year.

12:55 p.m.

Director of Operations, North by Northeast (NXNE)

Mike Tanner

We do 1,000 bands in a week.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Okay, good.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gord Brown

Thank you very much, and thank you to our panellists for being with us today, and for your contributions to our study. It is much appreciated. If you have any further contributions, please send them to us in writing.

We will briefly adjourn. We're going to go in camera for just a few minutes to do some committee business.

[Proceedings continue in camera]